12:36:09 From kennethpage : 58. The standard 12:36:14 From Glenn Workman : The hammer! 12:36:17 From Adam Goldman : use it as a teaspoon or a doorstop too 12:36:52 From Timmeh Samuel : That C214 is nice. 12:37:08 From Adam Goldman : Timmeh: yep 12:40:01 From Russ Pfeifer : Really like the BatCave - Timmeh! 12:40:30 From Timmeh Samuel : Thanks! It’s usually just cold and dark. 12:40:46 From Russ Pfeifer : Winter is coming 12:41:22 From Benoit Widemann : And what about hardware synths? 12:41:25 From Rich Switzer : I feel like I’ve seen this movie….ha ha… 12:41:35 From Paul Colombo : I use zbox 12:41:41 From Peter Buchta : S/P DIF 12:41:55 From Glenn Workman : Paul. So do I. Cheap and effective. 12:42:13 From Bob Turner : We use Nady DI's in our band. 12:42:13 From Paul Colombo : Yes Glenn 12:42:31 From Ray Toler : Good day. 12:42:33 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Happy debate Tuesday everybody! 12:42:37 From Adam Goldman : Ray!! 12:42:52 From Peter Buchta : Most newer keyboards have fiber connects. 12:43:06 From Timmeh Samuel : Jose: You mean DP v Logic? :-) 12:43:24 From Eric Brown : I’ve got one of these, they work the balls! 12:43:25 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Haha theres no debate about that Time ;) 12:43:26 From Adam Goldman : Timmy/Jose: nah, Logic v Logic. 12:43:45 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Timmeh* 12:43:56 From Adam Goldman : (where’s Spock when you need him?) 12:44:03 From Ray Toler : Not a direct box, but I run most of my unbalanced gear through Ebtech line level shifters. Made a huge difference in my noise floor. 12:44:09 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : lol 12:44:17 From Björn Lindén : iMac… ilogic 12:44:39 From Ray Toler : TIMMEH! (shh!) timmeh… 12:44:53 From Bil VornDick : Miktek Stereo Mic Pre has 3 selections for mic impedance and also DI, only one that has it and the pre is a copy of a 1073. Using the right imp selection opens the mic right up. 12:45:03 From Benoit Widemann : I bought an audio volume pedal from Ernie Ball, and the impedance was wrong with my keyboard, had to return it and get a different one “special for keys” 12:45:27 From Bil VornDick : Radial has a DI with selectable imp for different pickups 12:45:57 From Ray Toler : Given the machines in my studios, I’m upgrading my computers every 8-12 years. :) 12:46:38 From Timmeh Samuel : I have a Roland JV-1010 with an low-volume, high-noise output and it drives me nuts. 12:46:45 From Jay Farber : Anybody using cloudlifter? 12:47:24 From Benoit Widemann : My Korg SV-1 can’t use the line inputs on M4, not enough juice 12:47:32 From Ray Toler : Timmeh (!) - have you tried a line-level-shifter / signal balancer? 12:47:36 From Benoit Widemann : it needs some preamp 12:48:00 From Glenn Workman : https://www.adorama.com/pylpp999.html?msclkid=77c5878a28721e91c383d8f94d6d167f&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%5BADL%5D%20%5BShopping%5D%20%5BPLA%5D%20-%20%7BLong%20Tail%7D&utm_term=4580428009562285&utm_content=%7BLong%20Tail%7D%20-%20Bing&adlclid=ADL-1e3ee97a-4538-436e-a7db-5ac6d29f263e&utm_source=adl-umbase 12:48:21 From kennethpage : Thanks Glenn 12:48:28 From Rubens Tubenchlak : I have a MOTU 624. anyone feels the need to have a dedicated preamp or the MOTU interface preamp is more than enough? 12:48:34 From Timmeh Samuel : I’ve tried direct boxes, but nothing else (besides going direct into the interface like MAtt’s saying, rather than the mixer) 12:48:49 From Glenn Workman : Rubens: The MOTU mic preamps are excellent. 12:48:50 From Adam Goldman : Hosa!! 12:48:54 From Timmeh Samuel : Do you have a piece of gear you recomment for that Ray? 12:49:10 From Rubens Tubenchlak : thank you Glenn! 12:49:10 From Charlyn Bernal : hoser 12:49:17 From kennethpage : I use a USB turntable. 12:49:19 From Eric Brown : I use Cloud Lifter with my Shure SM7b. 12:49:23 From Adam Goldman : that’s for when they’re not YOUR pops and clicks 12:49:36 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Have a quick question: In terms of cutting levels difference between DI vs a Micked source…Are healthy levels still -15db to -12db or 0db if on a monitoring K-20 system. for both cases DI and Micked? 12:49:42 From Ray Toler : I started adding Ebtech LLS-8s to all of my unbalanced gear. Completely passive, but my noise pretty much disappeared. 12:49:51 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : that was a weird way to phrase it…sorry 12:50:01 From Scott Dorton : I have an ION USB Turntable with software that works great for digital encoding of LPs. 12:50:01 From Timmeh Samuel : Ooo, will try that. Thanks Ray! 12:50:02 From Eric Brown : Jay: I use a Cloud CL-1. 12:50:07 From chris : Rueben: I have the 828ES and the preamps are really good but I still use my Pretty Good Preamp more often than not. 12:50:08 From Adam Goldman : weird enough that I don’t quite follow, Jose. :-P 12:50:09 From Jefferson Jarvis : Jay: use a Cloudlifter on my Cascade Fathead ribbon mic - it makes a big difference 12:50:30 From farber : Funny I ave a Cascadenas nwell 12:51:00 From Ray Toler : The LLS-2 is a lot cheaper and might be a good test case for you. But I now have really short unbalanced runs to the LLS-8, then balanced cables to patch bays and MOTU interfaces. 12:51:01 From Björn Lindén : Got a couple of Cascades as well… 12:51:05 From Peter Buchta : carded and omni 12:51:31 From Peter Buchta : Nice 12:51:42 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Lol thanks Adam, I think the best way to ask is what are the best levels to cut at DI vs a Micked Source? 12:52:25 From Jefferson Jarvis : “facing the talent” or in my case “the talent-challenged” 12:52:36 From Peter Buchta : lol 12:52:44 From Glenn Workman : :) 12:52:47 From Andrew Culver : Scott: What model of ION do you have? 12:52:51 From Ray Toler : I think I understand, Jose. I don’t have a “real” answer for you, but I try to get all of my recording signals peaking in the -12 to -6 dB range on the input meters. 12:53:28 From Rubens Tubenchlak : Chris, Pretty Good preamp or really nice? and why you feel it works better for you? 12:53:29 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Yes! thats it Ray thanks. Are you monitoring K-14 or K-20? 12:53:46 From Scott Dorton : Andrew, It is an older model (inexpensive) called TTUSB 12:54:14 From Glenn Workman : Ray/Jose: I tend to cut hotter at home/studio then live, but Ray’s suggestion is usually enough to give a studio player some room for dynamics. Live I always track the soundcheck, then cut thing back because the players will invariably play harder or turn up their amps during a show. 12:54:30 From Ray Toler : I mix at K-14 about 80% of the time, K-20 the other 20%. That doesn’t really come into play when I’m tracking, though… I’m hitting -12 to -6 full scale when recording. 12:54:46 From Richard Arandia : I love the 624 12:54:55 From Andrew Culver : Scott: Don’t see it. But there plenty of choices. 12:55:08 From Adam Goldman : Jose: my experience mimics Ray’s & Glenn’s…I use those parameters as targets for peaks in DP too. 12:55:13 From Adam Goldman : with DI or direct 12:55:14 From Scott Dorton : Glenn, I know what you mean. Generally, guitar players. 12:55:20 From Ray Toler : Small room, so I normally calibrate to around 72 - 78 db for the monitors while mixing. 12:55:38 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Awesome, thanks guys that helps a lot 12:56:03 From Scott Dorton : Andrew, yes. They come with a nice cartridge. 12:56:04 From chris : Rueben: PrettY Good preamp is the actual name of the preamp , google it its really nice. It’s just a little better than the built ins on the 828 especially on the condenser mics but honestly If I didn’t already have it I actually might not miss it as the built ins on the 8282 are very very good. 12:56:17 From Andrew Culver : Thanks Scott 12:56:42 From Rubens Tubenchlak : thank you Chris! 12:57:18 From Ray Toler : Jose, also, I’m always at 24 bit these days. 12:57:32 From Adam Goldman : yes, what Ray said. ^ 12:58:06 From Jay Crutcher : Hey everyone, u guys using MS are you pushing the gain on the figure 8 to match the cardio. It typically will have less level. Normalizing? 12:59:04 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Likewise, thank you Ray 12:59:30 From Ken Thies : Jay, I typically adjust the balance between M and S for sense of width. 13:00:01 From Glenn Workman : Jay: Better to boost the input/gain rather than do it with digital normalizing. That process not only brings up the sound you want, but also the digital crud in the lower levels of any digital audio recording. 13:00:16 From Dan Wool : Jay: I struggle with that. My MS micing is often uneven and ends up left or right heavy 13:01:23 From Ray Toler : With modern AD/DA, the only time I feel the need to use a specific mic pre is if I need the coloration that pre provides. Even my Behringer ADA 8200 boxes are *super* clean and transparent. 13:01:40 From TapLoudCmdrFunk_mic : What's the diff between X/Y and Blumlein? 13:02:19 From Jay Crutcher : Thanks. It’s what I’ve been doing, but my figure 8’s (sennheiser MH30) typically bring some extra noise with the added gain. 13:02:29 From Larry Rousseve : I have used tube mic pre: Demeter 2 channel with my MOTU 896 very successfully on Vox, acoustic instruments; it did not work as well on drums 13:02:35 From Glenn Workman : TLCF: X/Y is done typically in cardiod and Blumlein are both set figure 8 13:02:45 From Reed Robins : Ribbons are great on piano Darrell. I have a pair of Royers that are fabulous. 13:02:53 From TapLoudCmdrFunk_mic : Ah... Thanks Glenn! 13:03:02 From Ken Thies : my L/R is usually balanced with M/S. I usually record them at "ddcent" levels, and then trim the S back to taste when decoding during mix. 13:03:19 From Ken Thies : decent, not ddcent... 13:04:01 From Charlyn Bernal : Great info! 13:04:11 From Glenn Workman : darrell: I’m ready to pre-order whatever you end up recording. 13:04:31 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: what Glenn said 13:04:46 From jraoul : Hear here! 13:04:58 From Jay Crutcher : The AEA ribbon fund ribbon for woodwinds and vocals is awesome. 13:04:59 From TapLoudCmdrFunk_mic : Darrell: What Adam said about what Glenn said. 13:05:12 From Bob Turner : Lots of videos available on YouTube!! 13:05:18 From jraoul : Darrell: But maybe you should wait until v 12 is out... 13:05:19 From kennethpage : What they all said 13:05:47 From Adam Goldman : Also, what Reed said about Royers. One above my head as I type. :-P 13:05:57 From Reed Robins : I noticed that Adam! 13:06:00 From jraoul : Darrell: In case you missed it, you have several pre-orders here. Be sure to let us know how to order! 13:06:03 From Glenn Workman : darrell: Just try, try, try, different mic placement close/far/mid etc. Play the same material with the different positions and just listen back. Taking pictures of where you set the mics helps when trying to recreate the best setup. 13:06:06 From Dan Wool : Charles calling in via shortwave radio 13:06:16 From Glenn Workman : Breaker breaker 13:06:21 From darrellsmith : Reed: I heard the Royers are the best. 13:06:28 From Adam Goldman : I was going to say he should drive carefully. :-P 13:06:34 From Russ Pfeifer : CB 13:06:38 From Peter Buchta : snap, crackle, pop. 13:06:48 From Adam Goldman : those are HIS snaps, crackles, and pops. 13:06:52 From darrellsmith : Glenn: Thanks, great advice. 13:06:56 From Russ Pfeifer : HA 13:06:59 From NMcC : We got ourselves a convoy! 13:07:13 From Caxa : Don't know if this is of any interest - I haven’t had a chance to look at it myself yet. It's a new service called Reward Music. It's for musicians to go straight to fans/customers cutting out the middlemen. Eventide are offering two free months with the code EVENTIDE1 You can check it out here https://www.rewardmusic.com/?mc_cid=a3db3c0061&mc_eid=895d355f48 13:07:14 From Tom Lewis : I hear y’all, good buddy! 13:07:50 From Reed Robins : They are SO great! I’ve got a 1917 Steiway, well maintained, etc. I’ve got the phantom powered 122’s, and they are a bit hybrid (not as vibety as the Coles for example, but they smooth out the transients, very important in my situation. 13:08:19 From Marco Olivieri : With a blumlein set how can I choose or balance the Front and the rear with the ms decoder plug ? 13:08:26 From Reed Robins : The other this is that I have struggled with the recored sound, although the piano has a fabulous tone when your in the room with it. 13:08:27 From darrellsmith : Reed: cool 13:08:32 From Reed Robins : Other thing. 13:08:37 From Rich Switzer : Screen share 13:08:53 From Ray Toler : I have learned to LOOOOOOOVE the hardware insert plug. :-) 13:09:09 From Adam Goldman : Reed: Absolutely re Royers. My 122 is amazing…been using it for everything lately, and it gives just gorgeous results, regardless of what the source is. 13:09:17 From Benoit Widemann : I was right: Analog Performer :) 13:09:17 From Reed Robins : I’ve tried the small Neumann one, cant think of the model # right now KM 184’s maybe? 13:09:26 From Reed Robins : Also tried 414’s, etc. 13:09:30 From Glenn Workman : Marco: You wouldn’t use the MS decoder for that as I understand it. The blumlein is getting stereo not really front/back/side recording. 13:10:09 From Adam Goldman : Reed: you must be looking over my shoulder. My mic tree holds the 122, a 414, and a Neumann. All incredible devices. 13:10:13 From Reed Robins : I’ve used a D112 on the very bottom strings to get more bottom with the KM184’s. The Royers beat everything else I’ve tried. 13:10:39 From Reed Robins : Good luck Darrell!! 13:10:53 From Adam Goldman : Often heard the comparison that a mic is like an ear. If your ear sucks, no amount of processing will really help. 13:10:53 From Marco Olivieri : Glenn: ok, thank you 13:12:20 From darrellsmith : Reed: Thanks 13:13:08 From Glenn Workman : Here are some samples of different pianos a friend of mine has rebuilt. Incredible restoration work (there’s a video here about that as well). I think I mentioned this awhile back, but I took the same 414s, moved the mic stands over each piano and recorded about a minute of music. No soundcheck, just initial level check. All the pianos were in the same small room with an auto repair shop next door in this industrial park. You should be able to see the mics in some of the video, but basically I placed them visually over the brace that separates the bass section from the middle, and the brace between the middle and treble. 13:13:08 From Glenn Workman : http://www.freqsound.com/hughes/ 13:14:53 From Ray Toler : Adam, when we get to Q&A, would you please ask what Matt recommends if I need to send a stereo track (e.g., keys) to a mono send for the hardware insert plug? 13:14:53 From Reed Robins : Darrell: the other thing is, the closer you need to be to the piano, the more (to me and the mics I have) the mics need to NOT accentuate the transients in the sound. That’s why I ribbon works well, for example if you need to minimize the room sound, or if you have other musicians, singers etc. in the room and you need the best separation possible. 13:15:04 From Michael Canavan : One thing I haven’t really understood is why MOTU don’t have a hardware instrument insert? Other DAWs I use have a plug in with latency detection for hardware instruments as well. 13:15:30 From Ray Toler : Michael, that’s what he’s showing, no? 13:15:33 From Gregg Seibert : Hardware Insert doesn’t use your bundles names. FYI. 13:15:43 From NMcC : Marco - you might want to look into mid and side band mixing - it’s a little different but is more about treating the centre and side EQs differently. Might give you some of that control you are looking for, especially if you combine it with different reverb treatment of middle and side stuff. 13:16:12 From Michael Canavan : No Ray, he’s showing a hardware FX insert, try using it for an instrument, it doesn’t work. 13:16:43 From Ray Toler : I guess I’m not grokking, then… all of my hardware instruments are direct to my interface… I’ve never run into a latency issue. 13:16:54 From Adam Goldman : Michael C: sounds like a good one for suggestions@motu.com 13:17:03 From Benoit Widemann : Michael, how would you detect latency from an external instrument? 13:17:20 From Timmeh Samuel : Ray: He’s talking more about outboard fx gear 13:17:28 From Jose Gonzalez Palma : Glenn thanks for sharing Hughe’s site These are great! 13:17:37 From Ray Toler : Timmeh, assuming you mean Matt by "he" 13:17:38 From Adam Goldman : Michael would this be using midi from DP to a hardware instrument, and getting latency that way? 13:17:46 From Glenn Workman : Michael: Are you talking about the delay an external MIDI instrument takes to produce a sound after receiving a MIDI note message? 13:17:47 From rolanddobbins : Is this the same for an outboard reverb 13:17:56 From Adam Goldman : (What Glenn said) 13:17:58 From Michael Canavan : The same way Matt just showed with FX inserts, except it pings with an internal MIDI note 13:18:01 From Ray Toler : Yeah, I’ve occasionally run into MIDI latency, but it’s really patch specific. 13:18:16 From Benoit Widemann : OK that makes sense 13:19:13 From Jay Crutcher : Content, content, content. 13:19:24 From Glenn Workman : Yup - your ears are still the best mixing tool. 13:19:58 From Tom Lewis : Which brings up “the Law of diminishing returns.” 13:20:16 From darrellsmith : Reed & Glenn: You are the best. 13:20:31 From Dom Pesce : how does cache size change affect the latency? 13:20:38 From Reed Robins : Glenn’s the best Darrell :) 13:20:51 From Ray Toler : Dom, do you mean buffer size? 13:21:31 From Reed Robins : BTW Darrell , if you ever want to bounce any idea you might have on this topic around let me know, I’m around 13:21:32 From Glenn Workman : 30 years ago either Keyboard or Electronic Musician tested the keyboards fo the day for latency. Kurzweil and then Akai samplers had the quickest response (1-3 milliseconds) and some of the other were in closer to 20 milliseconds or more. 13:22:20 From Ray Toler : Yeah, midi slop can definitely be an issue, but the only time I’ve had it be an issue is on drum tracks, which I normally just select-all and nudge. 13:22:36 From Dom Pesce : yes buffer size 13:22:46 From darrellsmith : Thanks Reed,I’m sure I will hsve some issues. 13:22:52 From Michael Canavan : Yes Glenn, it’s a midi and audio issue. typically I’m seeing 14milliseconds 13:22:59 From Ray Toler : Dom, in short - the lower your buffer setting, the lower your latency, but the harder your CPU has to work. 13:23:22 From Vincent : How about recording the MIDI data and use the MIDI shift plugshift plug in? 13:23:42 From Victor LeComer : In the world of the two eyed man, the ear is king. 13:24:19 From Peter Buchta : Ugh. 13:24:30 From Dom Pesce : Does this affect the hardware plug in latency? If you change the buffer size does the latency change when sending out to the hardware? 13:24:37 From Michael Canavan : What Adamants and Matt are talking about is missing the point, because each hardware instrument has a different latency, it’s not entirely about MIDI latency, and it won’t be solved by adjusting universal latency. 13:24:54 From Vincent : I use MIDI shift quite often to dial in a MIDI part. 😊 13:24:58 From Roberto Colombo : Hi Adam, one question for Matt: which plug in sets would he recommend to record acoustic guitar (fingerstyle style, like Antoine Dufour, Andy McKee etc.). I know it is a very general question, maybe silly, and a lot depends on the mic, mic position, the room, etc. but perhaps in his experience he can say that this or that plug ins are really amazing for the result... if tis question ever makes sense :-) 13:25:19 From Robert Thomas Mein : I endorse Matt’s shift it later. A human played the track, and sometimes they err a bit. Trust your ears later, and shift what you need to. 13:25:29 From Peter Buchta : I haven’t noticed any delay on USB 13:25:39 From Peter Buchta : Midi delay on USB that it 13:25:53 From Adam Goldman : Michael: takes me back to making a suggestion to MOTU for that idea. 13:27:00 From Roberto Colombo : thanks Adam 13:27:16 From Russ Pfeifer : col 13:27:17 From Rubens Tubenchlak : great! 13:27:21 From Russ Pfeifer : cool 13:28:11 From Ray Toler : lol 13:28:24 From Ray Toler : Poor eVerb. 13:28:38 From Adam Goldman : the poor relation 13:28:51 From Darien O'Brien : When you bring up a .MID file using a MacBook Pro DP will automatically assign Apple Music patches to each track. Where do these Apple Music patches reside? They sound excellent. 13:28:59 From Roberto Colombo : steel 13:29:31 From Ray Toler : Adam, reminder about my question re: sending a stereo track to a mono hardware insert. What’s Matt’s recommended way of doing that? Trim? Bounce? 13:29:42 From Roberto Colombo : thanks 13:29:55 From Adam Goldman : oh, Ray, I somehow missed that one. 13:30:05 From Ray Toler : No worries, and not critical if he can’t get to it. 13:30:05 From Michael Canavan : Yep Adam, I’m a thorn in the side of whoever has to read the Suggestions at Motu.com 13:30:29 From Roberto Colombo : I needs to start the endless project to record my 115 fingerstyle songs with M4 ] DP10, before I forget them :-| 13:30:32 From Adam Goldman : Michael C: yes, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease. :-P 13:31:00 From Ray Toler : I had an employee tell me that once, Adam. I responded that *sometimes* the squeaky wheel gets replaced. 13:31:05 From Glenn Workman : Low E string is about 82hz on a guitar, so unless you’re banging on the hollow body for some bass thumps, you probably don’t need anything below that. 13:31:24 From Adam Goldman : that’s true. But Michael C is irreplaceable, Ray. 😊 13:31:32 From Russ Pfeifer : Ray - Nice 13:31:36 From Ray Toler : Oh, I wasn’t talking about present company. :) 13:31:40 From Glenn Workman : Roberto: Just like the question to Darrell, when can we pre-order it? 13:32:08 From Roberto Colombo : pre-order what ? the recording ? :-) 13:32:18 From Glenn Workman : Yes, the recordings you’re going to make. 13:32:35 From Glenn Workman : I NEED NEW GOOD MUSIC to listen to. 13:32:46 From Roberto Colombo : ahaha... they are all covers... more than 70 with arrangements made by me 13:33:16 From Glenn Workman : New recordings of familiar (or unfamiliar) songs work for me. 13:33:38 From Roberto Colombo : as soon as the summer season for tennis is over and winter is coming, I will spend more time on music, especially live stream concerts, then you can hear me and decide if you want to spend even 1 cent on them ';-) 13:34:51 From Ray Toler : Talk about instant gratification... 13:34:53 From Matt LaPoint : https://www.dropbox.com/s/uaw29oi0mpusptc/ML%20For%20RC.dpfxclip.zip?dl=0 13:35:38 From Ray Toler : MOTUnity™ 13:35:42 From darrellsmith : MOTUnity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 13:36:02 From Roberto Colombo : actua;lly I can do the other way around as well: record few parts and let people experiment how to treat them with plug ins and see what they come out with 13:36:17 From Ray Toler : Thanks, Adam. 13:36:21 From Ray Toler : Yes. 13:36:22 From Glenn Workman : Roberto: That sounds like a great way to start. 13:36:25 From Ray Toler : Stereo to mono. 13:37:07 From Ray Toler : Ok, so does the mono bus collapse or does it strip one side? 13:37:19 From Glenn Workman : Ray: It sends both sides merged. 13:37:30 From Ray Toler : YAY! 13:37:37 From Ray Toler : Awesome that’s what I was looking for. Thanks! 13:38:44 From Ray Toler : I use them on Aux tracks only… never tried to do multiples to the same piece of gear. 13:38:57 From Bob Turner : My Zoom went away for about 1 minute. It's back now. 13:39:08 From Ken Thies : Well, gotta go drive, so see all next time! 13:39:15 From Ray Toler : Bye, Ken. 13:39:23 From Adam Goldman : bye KT 13:39:35 From Tom Lewis : See ya Ken 13:39:36 From kennethpage : Bob. I’ve had that happen. That’s why I save that chat every few minutes 13:39:58 From Bob Turner : Yeah... I lost all the chat :o( 13:40:11 From kennethpage : I know 13:40:22 From kennethpage : I save often now 13:41:03 From Russ Pfeifer : Reed - You door looks like a vault 13:41:05 From Bob Turner : It's never happened to me b4 today. It's been very reliable up until now. 13:41:08 From Dave Hayward : Mix them first…. 13:41:26 From Scott Dorton : No problem with chat here. 13:41:27 From Adam Goldman : DaveH: my thought too….send them out off one Aux grouped together 13:41:45 From kennethpage : Bob, it only happened to me once for a second or two but I still lost the chat 13:41:51 From Adam Goldman : (what I said. :-P ) 13:42:00 From Warren McRae : Adam: BAMM!! 13:42:17 From Dan Wool : Sounds like that’d work 13:43:05 From Glenn Workman : Bob: I’ll have it and can mail it to you. I’ve actually posted many of the chat files from past webinars in the group folder as well. 13:43:13 From Dave Hayward : More than one way to skin a cat…. 13:43:20 From Adam Goldman : that poor cat 13:43:23 From kennethpage : Excellent Glenn 13:43:30 From Bob Turner : Glenn... I was gonna wait till you get it posted. Thanks. 13:43:36 From Scott Dorton : Great, Glenn! 13:44:08 From Dave Hayward : It’s ok I’ve got a spare cat… 13:44:20 From kennethpage : 9 lives? 13:44:27 From Glenn Workman : Adam has also helped fill in the blanks for many of them. I haven’t uploaded any in awhile, but I’ll do that later today. They are here: https://www.freqsound.com/motuuserfiles/webinarchats/ 13:44:31 From Dave Hayward : Undo the skin? 13:44:45 From Bob Turner : Yes it is!!!! 13:44:54 From Jay Crutcher : Got to go, thanks Matt and Adam, musicians keep at. We are important! 13:44:58 From Glenn Workman : Bye Jay. 13:45:02 From Adam Goldman : Bye, Jay 13:45:05 From kennethpage : Bye Jay 13:45:05 From Bob Turner : I use it all the time 'cause my fingers don't move as fast as they used to!! 13:45:13 From Ray Toler : Heh. Yeah, step record is one of those things that I always thought of as cheating until I needed to use it for something. Then it was magic. 13:46:02 From Bob Turner : Ray... It's a "legal" cheat, right?? :o) 13:47:11 From Bob Turner : I also use "stretch" to slow tracks down to a speed I can handle!! LoL 13:47:17 From Glenn Workman : Ray/Bob: We are all altering time any time we overdub or move a note or soundbite. Step Record just allows you to slow down time to accomplish similar things. We control the horizontal and the vertical :) 13:47:19 From Ray Toler : I don’t think of it as a cheat at all anymore. 128th note trap hi-hats for EVERYONE!!! 13:47:20 From Dom Pesce : Adam-can use hardware insert post fader if you wanted to ride a vocal when recording? 13:47:47 From Peter Buchta : I’m getting old. I use every tool I can get my hands on. 13:47:48 From Timmeh Samuel : Maybe change the Return channel into the input of an audio track to capture the wet signal? 13:48:01 From Bob Turner : LoL I play 32nd notes like 8th notes these days! 13:48:56 From Bob Turner : After the age of 70, you would be amazed at what all slows down!! :o) 13:49:53 From Sean Martin : very cool tip on the guitar EQ… Are there any mixing books y’all would recommend for these types of tips and tricks? 13:49:56 From Ray Toler : Re: hardware inserts, I have four in my template set up as Aux Tracks. If I need to print the wet track, I just route that aux to an audio track. But I rarely insert them directly on a channel. 13:50:14 From Glenn Workman : Bob: I remember renting my piano for a show there PineTop Perkins was the piano player. I was showing him the few controls he had (it was a Yamaha CP-80) and was just playing a trill while changing the knobs. His comment was “I used to be able to do that” 13:50:49 From Bob Turner : I feel ya, Glenn!! 13:50:50 From Peter Buchta : Things break after 70 smh 13:51:12 From Ray Toler : Things break after 30, Peter. 13:51:20 From Peter Buchta : :) 13:51:26 From jraoul : Things are broke. 13:51:27 From Adam Goldman : Trust no one over 30, I thought, Ray. 13:51:30 From Ray Toler : I’m just learning that there’s an exponential curve on the breakage. 13:51:31 From Glenn Workman : A cycle is 360 degrees when talking about phase. 13:51:43 From Ray Toler : Adam, I don’t trust anyone under 30 these days. 13:51:47 From Ray Toler : ;-) 13:51:52 From Peter Buchta : +- 180 13:51:55 From Bob Turner : I'm at the point now where I wish I could afford a Roadie!!! 13:52:12 From Peter Buchta : tremelo 13:52:21 From Jay Farber : Millennials, ugh, Seems I have become my father 13:52:22 From Adam Goldman : I’m equal opportunity, Ray….I don’t trust anyone over 30, or under 30. 30 year olds have proven themselves unworthy of trust too. 13:52:30 From Peter Buchta : lol 13:52:37 From Ray Toler : Kidding, of course. I’ve met plenty of 20 somethings with more common sense than some of the people I went to high school with. 13:52:39 From Glenn Workman : Baritone guitar? 13:52:54 From Bob Turner : That's a "pretty" guitar! Love it!! 13:52:56 From Ray Toler : But yeah, you’re right, I have a general policy of distrust and verify anyway. 13:53:24 From kennethpage : Good policy Ray 13:53:47 From Adam Goldman : very much enjoyed Harlan Coben’s book….Trust No One (was a decent film too) 13:54:05 From Ray Toler : Eh… I guess it’s more accurate to say I’m a cynical trusting optimist. 13:54:28 From Glenn Workman : Ray:) 13:54:54 From Peter Buchta : can you change the rate with a midi controller? 13:55:10 From Adam Goldman : PeterB: yes, with Midi Learn 13:55:22 From jraoul : GW to the rescue 13:55:52 From Glenn Workman : Peter: yes with MIDI learn function 13:55:58 From Ray Toler : Oh man, I am SO using that trick on my remix today. 13:55:58 From Peter Buchta : Thnx 13:56:02 From Adam Goldman : What Glenn said. :-P 13:56:40 From Glenn Workman : Or spins out of control at the end… 13:56:44 From Ray Toler : Other direction for a glitch effect on a vocal. 13:56:53 From Ray Toler : BT-style. 13:57:07 From Adam Goldman : PeterB: that’s what you asked 13:57:13 From Peter Buchta : yep thanks 13:57:21 From jraoul : Is there a “leave your lover” plug-in? 13:57:31 From Benoit Widemann : Are there MIDI plugins with automatable params? 13:57:31 From Scott Dorton : Great on the Tremolo. Nothing is as good as an old Leslie! 13:57:43 From Ray Toler : jraoul, there is, but it has like 50 controls. 13:57:52 From Mark Rasmussen : Jraoul :) 13:57:54 From Glenn Workman : Scott: Still use a Leslie live. I need the fan near my feet. 13:58:16 From Scott Dorton : Hah, Glenn. Great 13:58:18 From kennethpage : Glennnnnnnn 13:58:32 From Bob Turner : Automating the Depth is great to add tremolo when required, then turn it off when it's not required. 13:59:02 From Jay Farber : Thanks 13:59:04 From Ray Toler : Thanks all! 13:59:06 From Adam Goldman : thanks everyone 13:59:07 From Glenn Workman : Thanks as always Matt. 13:59:08 From Chris Rinaman : Thanks Matt! 13:59:10 From Peter Buchta : Thank you so much!!! 13:59:10 From Tom Lewis : Thanks All 13:59:11 From Wayne Pronzati : Thanks Matt!! 13:59:13 From Brian : Thanks! 13:59:15 From Sean Martin : thank you Matt, Glenn, Adam 13:59:18 From Geoff Dodson : Thanks all. 13:59:20 From Roberto Colombo : THANKS 13:59:21 From jeffreypcorcoran : have a great day be safe 13:59:22 From Mark Rasmussen : Thanks all 13:59:22 From Dan Wool : Bye 13:59:23 From Bob Turner : Great Session!! Thanks Matt, Glenn, Adam!! See ya Thurs. 13:59:24 From Zab Skornik : THX Seeyou next time