12:37:40 From Bradley DePasse : I got more music done back then? lol 12:37:41 From Adam Goldman : JP: RICH, not lucky. 😉 12:37:50 From James Paschall : 10-4! 12:37:54 From Adam Goldman : (and she IS) 12:38:00 From Terry Leigh Britton : I think I did too, Bradley - just turn it on and hit record! 12:38:00 From Benoit Widemann : Just made it in time :) 12:38:03 From Benoit Widemann : Hi all 12:38:06 From Adam Goldman : Benoit!! 12:38:28 From James Paschall : Hi, Benoit! 12:38:31 From Bob Turner : Welcome, Benoit!! 12:38:41 From Ken Thies : Hi, Benoit! 12:38:47 From Robert Thomas Mein : Hey there, James! Miss camaraderie of the SCL events. 12:38:51 From jraoul : Benoit - Matt’s just starting with some basic 101 stuff, then will move on to q+a 12:39:51 From Dave Hayward : The Blues
. 12:41:32 From James Paschall : lol, Robert. 12:41:58 From Bob Turner : Good Point, Adam!! Thanks. 12:42:01 From James Paschall : Buckets of buffers
 12:42:10 From chris : Buckets of memory 12:43:13 From James Paschall : Not caffeinated yetℱ MLP 12:43:56 From Paul Lenart : good explanation Mat! 12:43:58 From Bob Turner : With the Spitfire BBCSO, I had to raise my buffer to 512 to keep the Real Time Processing from red-lining! 12:44:23 From John Flaherty : Thanks for that question, Adam. 12:44:56 From Adam Goldman : well, I figured it’s a 101-type question and might therefore be helpful. 12:45:08 From farber : Matt does your MacBook spool up the fans ? 12:45:19 From chris : Yeah the fan on my old 2015 Mac book pro kicks in with DP every now and then 12:45:34 From farber : Thanks 12:45:35 From Bil VornDick : Does the processor only work on the data in the sequence you are on, or does it also accumulate the data processing in the other sequences in the project? 12:45:53 From darrellsmith : Adam: Where did Matt double click to get the Track List? 12:46:03 From Ken Thies : "...old 2015 macbook pro..." Gee, mine's a 2008.... 12:46:04 From Adam Goldman : BVD, I believe non-playing Chunks are not actively in RAM 12:46:05 From Bob Turner : Yes.... the MAS gets "lost"!! 12:46:14 From Dave Hayward : What are the downsides of a low buffer
 graphics slow down? etc
. 12:46:18 From Adam Goldman : (and therefore not part of the processor’s work.) 12:46:30 From kennethpage : tgif 12:46:32 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: missed it, sorry 12:46:43 From John Flaherty : So, if I understand, you want to go with as low a buffer as your machine can handle? 12:46:54 From Maestro DL Stryles : Is the clock speed the most important thing as far as "real time processing goes?" 2.8 on a dual xeon vs 4.0 i7 or 9? for example. 12:46:56 From Adam Goldman : JF, yes, esp if you’re having latency issues 12:47:01 From darrellsmith : Adam: ok 12:47:03 From Adam Goldman : if not, you’re probably fine where you are. 12:47:05 From Terry Leigh Britton : Small buffers place a heavier load on the CPU because it has to work harder/faster to get the audio out "in time" 12:47:08 From John Flaherty : Great. Thanks. 12:48:00 From Neil McCarroll : John - yep while tracking for easy playability/latency, then you can put it higher when you are mixing and editing etc. 12:48:17 From Ray Toler : Good day, everyone. 12:48:22 From Adam Goldman : Ray!! 12:48:29 From John Flaherty : Thanks, Neil. 12:48:36 From Caxa : Hi Ray 12:48:50 From Ken Thies : Thought I'd make it without, but I need my coffee... ;-) BRB... 12:50:44 From Maestro DL Stryles : This is what I found . On Daws and CPU choices..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUsLLEkswzE 12:50:45 From darrellsmith : Adam: I figured it out 12:50:53 From Bil VornDick : matt start your next song for the project please 12:50:56 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: what’d I miss? :-P 12:51:01 From Eric Witt : What he is doing I suppose can’t be done wit a virtual inst? 12:51:17 From Tom Lewis : Got to practice w/ the pencil for Volume automation. Will speed up work flow 12:51:22 From farber : Doing basics 12:51:30 From John Flaherty : It would be helpful when Matt does thing like he just did with the pencil tool on volume, if he would quickly play a few seconds of it to hear what the difference would be,. 12:51:30 From Adam Goldman : Eric: not on the VI track itself, but you can put automation on its corresponding midi or rendered audio track 12:51:44 From Eric Witt : Thanks Adam. 12:52:00 From Benoit Widemann : As latency is definitely heard in Zoom, it would be interesting to change the buffer size and hear the difference 12:52:10 From darrellsmith : You can click any title in the tracks overview. i.e. comment,output,track etc. 12:52:21 From Bob Turner : You can automate Volume with Controller 7 in the MIDI window. 12:52:23 From darrellsmith : duble click 12:52:27 From darrellsmith : double 12:53:13 From Adam Goldman : “title” = tab (Tracks/Sequence/Clips/etc)? 12:54:01 From darrellsmith : No literally click on the title of the column in the tracks window 12:54:33 From Ray Toler : I’m pretty sure the answer is “no,” but is there a one-click / one-command way to collapse stereo to mono without a bounce & import operation? I normally just use the trim plug to do that, but would love to have mono audio from things that only send stereo. 12:56:35 From John Flaherty : Thanks, Adam! 12:56:42 From Ken Thies : Ray: you *could* use an aux send to collapse to mono as it sends it to another (mono) destination track. 12:57:07 From Robert Thomas Mein : This is wonderful (not!) They’re repaving Camarillo outside my window with the biggest recycling asphalt machine I’ve seen. Like an earthquake when it goes by — supplemented by a dozen heavy dump trucks, big front loader and various other equipment. Oh, joy. 12:57:18 From Ken Thies : Then treat that (maybe an aux) as the source, just treat it virtually as a mono track without actually bouncing the stereo source. 12:57:43 From Neil McCarroll : Robert - quick, sample it! 12:58:15 From Adam Goldman : Drunken Fader Master 12:58:25 From Sean Martin : What’s “Latch” 12:58:28 From Ray Toler : Ken, thanks! I have used that method as well, but would really love a command-option-shift-M type thing that does a render in place and converts a stereo track into a mono one. 12:58:37 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : Physical faders! This would be a good time to suggest that MOTU develop hardware specifically designed to controle DP! 12:58:40 From John Flaherty : The Fader has been drinking
. Not me. 12:58:45 From M& M : can I do a simultaneously bounce
.MP3 and Wave or is it separate passes? 12:58:47 From Robert Thomas Mein : LOL Unfortunately, unpredictable start stop. Tried to the other day and nothing for an hour. Turned off record and walked outside, and they started - lol. 12:58:48 From Caxa : @Ray - maybe I misunderstand you, but can’t you use Klanghelm VUMT to “force mono” 12:59:27 From Ken Thies : Ray: gotcha. I'd acutally like that as well. I wonder if there's a way to use routing to mono to trick merge into doing what we want... 12:59:37 From Ray Toler : Caxa, yeah
 I use the Trim plugin to do that and drop the level by 3.5 db. 12:59:58 From Caxa : @Ray yes ok 13:00:23 From Roque Baños : Hi Adam, I have a question What is the use of 9 O’clock, 12 O’clock, 3 O’clock when choosing a factory preset in ProVerb 13:00:28 From Ray Toler : Ken, when using the routing trick, I just record in realtime and get the file I need. It would just be nice, especially for things like Omnisphere or other VIs, to collapse the track in place. Sounds like something for suggestions@motu.com :-) 13:00:34 From Eric Witt : But it didn’t pop back up to where it was, no? 13:00:52 From Adam Goldman : Roque: those positions in regards to what? 13:01:04 From Ray Toler : Caxa, trim is also nice because sometimes I don’t want to go full mono, I just want to collapse the stereo field a bit. 13:01:06 From kennethpage : Yes Eric, it popped back higher 13:02:15 From Eric Witt : Kenneth - Right but should it not have gone back to the same place? 13:02:17 From Ken Thies : Ray: I totally agree. That said, it wouldn't be able to be "in place" so to speak, since the track it's in is a stereo track. It would have to place the result into a mono track, but I'm trying to find an offline way to do it without too much fiddly stuff.. :-) 13:02:31 From kennethpage : I would think so eric 13:02:34 From Bob Turner : That's good to know!!! 13:02:34 From Caxa : @Ray Ah ok - that stereo plugin Bo showed the other day looked nice 13:02:54 From Eric Witt : kenneth - That is what I found strange. 13:02:56 From Ray Toler : Ken, in my fantasy world, there would be a command that would convert a stereo track to a mono track, and render-in-place all soundbites on that track. 13:03:02 From kennethpage : Me too 13:03:31 From Ken Thies : Ahh, convert the entire track to mono and swap the track type in the process. Nice idea.... 13:03:43 From Ray Toler : Caxa, there are a lot of really nice stereoizing plugs (S1 from Waves is my normal go-to), but since discovering the Trim plug, it ends up on a huge number of channels in every project. 13:03:48 From Björn LindĂ©n : Ray +10000 13:03:55 From Roque Baños : When you pick a preset from Proverb it gives you the 3 options, Center, Left or Right 13:04:15 From Daniel Paul : In DP7 sequence window u could tap on upper darker color and quick switch from volume back to Soundbite. 13:04:40 From Daniel Paul : In DP10 is there a similar shortcut? 13:04:42 From Terry Leigh Britton : Some people play with their ears, others like me play with their fingers! (Church organs will convert anyone that way... latency deluxe!) 13:04:54 From Dan Wool : That’s a great question! Always wondered about the position 13:05:12 From Ray Toler : I need a sample of Matt going “woooOOOOOOooooo” for the remix I’m working on. ;-) 13:05:38 From James Paschall : lol, Ray! 13:05:47 From Adam Goldman : now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall 13:05:48 From Ken Thies : Re the proverb L/R/C, I can only think of sound design for film as a reason to use the L/R if the picture indicates that type of position in the room. 13:05:49 From Adam Goldman : 😉 13:05:52 From Roque Baños : Thank you Adam! 13:05:55 From Eric Witt : Kenneth - That is what I found strange. 13:06:30 From kennethpage : Eric, maybe ask Adam to ask about it 13:07:06 From kennethpage : Adam, Eric was wondering why the volume snapped back higher than it was set 13:07:28 From jraoul : Is that the simplest way to invert the phase (and then shift it in time so it’s lined up with the original) or is there a more direct way? 13:07:45 From Eric Witt : Thanks Kenneth. 13:07:49 From Adam Goldman : Eric/Kenneth,, if you are asking about how he added/adjusted volume
it was the result of having added NEW data in only a section where there was already some data
so he added some, and when done adding, it jumped to where the last data had the fader set 13:07:53 From Adam Goldman : hopefully that makes sense 13:07:56 From Benoit Widemann : Does a negative feedback flips and flips back and so on? 13:08:14 From Ken Thies : jraoul, the simplest I think would be to use a trim plug. 13:08:27 From jraoul : Tx 13:08:39 From kennethpage : Adam it does make sense except the volume jumped higher than was set 13:08:57 From Adam Goldman : I saw it jump to where his prior data ‘lived’ (was set) 13:09:04 From Ray Toler : Trim is so useful, I kind of wish it was a permanent part of the mixer channel strip. 13:09:04 From kennethpage : OK 13:09:25 From Eric Witt : Adam - Thanks. 13:09:33 From Adam Goldman : 👍 13:10:36 From Adam Goldman : and by any other name.... 13:10:43 From jraoul : This explains a lot 13:10:57 From Ken Thies : Benoit, I *think* the portion of echo he's using is essentially a 1-shot. There is a knob on the left that controls feedback, but it seems I found that it behaves like it's own animal, apart from the 4-tap portion. I would have to test the negative gain in the feedback section, but if set negative, I think it does send 1 iteration negative, the next positive, then -, +, etc. 13:11:34 From Benoit Widemann : kind of phase ping-pong :) 13:11:58 From Benoit Widemann : I’ll give it a try 13:12:03 From darrellsmith : I would love to hear this effect. 13:12:05 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : This is new to me. Very cool! 13:12:21 From Neil McCarroll : Hige respect to the developers for taking time to think about all these nuances. 13:12:27 From Neil McCarroll : huge 13:12:29 From Reed Robins : Question about ‘out of range’
? 13:13:15 From Peter Giacomini : Ray, I agree. I put a trim plugin on every track. 13:13:25 From Ray Toler : +1, Neil. You wonder how much stuff is in there that most people never find, even experts. 13:13:58 From Caxa : @Ray I use this one occasionally.. (don’t worry it’s free). http://www.alexhilton.net/A1AUDIO/index.php/a1stereocontrol 13:14:21 From James Paschall : +1, Neil
+1, Ray. 13:14:26 From Ray Toler : Thanks, Caxa, I’ll check it out. 13:14:30 From Ken Thies : Benoit, I was only half-right. feedback does trade phase when set negative, but it's not its own animal, it does indeed repeat the 4-tap pattern. Dunno what's in my coffee today... ;-) 13:14:47 From Adam Goldman : KT: insufficient beans 13:14:49 From Adam Goldman : :-P 13:15:08 From darrellsmith : Ray: Is trim a cpu eater? 13:15:23 From Robert Thomas Mein : Clear as mud. 13:15:24 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: NO. doesn’t eat much CPU
part of it’s point 13:15:28 From Ray Toler : Darrell, it’s negligible. I’ve never seen it affect cpu at all. 13:15:29 From Ken Thies : Adam: You're psychic! I made a quick instant today, so no beans at all. 13:15:30 From Bob Turner : Take a listen to Brubeck's "Take Five"! 13:15:31 From darrellsmith : Cool 13:15:33 From TapLoudCmdrFunk_mic : space-time 13:15:44 From Neil McCarroll : 5 beat bar at same tempo will last longer than a 4 beat bar 13:16:16 From Dave Hayward : Does ‘out of range’ still work? 13:16:24 From Ray Toler : I’m sure Trim has *some* impact, but it is *super* efficient. 13:16:39 From Peter Giacomini : Darrel, trim is basically a simple addition or subtraction to the sample amplitude 13:16:42 From Bob Turner : Can we hear some of it before he goes into detail?? 13:16:53 From darrellsmith : Peter: Thanks. 13:17:04 From Adam Goldman : Ray/Darrell: Matt talked about Trim plug before. Siad you could put one on every one of hundreds of tracks and is efficient enough that it wouldn’t impact CPU for that specific plug 13:17:24 From darrellsmith : Adam: Bueno. 13:17:42 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: muy 13:17:43 From Adam Goldman : 😊 13:18:08 From Ray Toler : Darrell / Adam: Taco grande. 13:18:19 From Adam Goldman : Mmmm
.donuts. D’Oh. 13:18:36 From darrellsmith : Krispy Kreme 13:19:01 From Ray Toler : Darrell, there’s one walking distance from my house. I have shown remarkable restraint since moving here a year ago. 13:19:28 From Eric Chapelle : Cool! Matt! 13:19:34 From darrellsmith : I know me too restraint but I hear donuts and that’s my defalut. 13:19:52 From Ray Toler : Especially when the Hot sign is lit. 13:19:54 From darrellsmith : default 13:20:02 From Timmy Samuel : darrell: same 13:20:09 From darrellsmith : Yeah that f#$%ing hot sign kills me 13:20:18 From Ray Toler : lol 13:20:18 From kennethpage : ha 13:20:32 From Ray Toler : New band name: Hot Donuts 13:20:41 From Adam Goldman : ℱ 13:20:54 From Adam Goldman : © 13:20:55 From Adam Goldman : Âź 13:21:25 From darrellsmith : Is this compressor a mastering device? 13:21:40 From Ray Toler : Adam: Höt DĂłnĂ»t§ 13:21:44 From darrellsmith : Matt just answered my question 13:21:59 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: it could be, but can also work on an individual or group of tracks 13:22:01 From Ken Thies : Darrel: It can be used for mastering, yes. 13:22:18 From steve ertel : Difference between Compressor and Trim? 13:22:32 From Adam Goldman : there’s also Dynamic EQ plugin which is not only a compressor for multi-band, but also an EQ as well, so that might be a good choice for mastering too 13:22:57 From Ray Toler : Steve, a compressor has a lot more control and changes based on the signal level. Trim is going to be a blanket +/- on the entire thing. 13:23:00 From Adam Goldman : Trim addresses signal levels, but compressor actually does compression, which is a different thing 13:23:05 From Ken Thies : Steve: Trim set a certain amount of boost or cut, and stays there. A compressor changes how much it cuts based on the level of its input. 13:23:21 From Adam Goldman : What Ray & Ken said. 😊 13:23:27 From Ray Toler : A compressor is a robot moving the fader, and trim is just setting the fader at a specific place. 13:23:37 From Neil McCarroll : Steve - compressor only reduces gain above a certain threshold, trim will effect the entire thing. 13:23:48 From Adam Goldman : (and what Neil said too) 13:23:53 From Ken Thies : Ray: I like that analogy. :-) 13:24:10 From steve ertel : Thx, all. 13:24:12 From Ray Toler : I am full of (always suspect) analogies. 13:24:43 From Ken Thies : Personally, I like the interface on the dynamic eq better than the MW comp, but the dynEQ is way too surgical to use for mastering. 13:24:58 From Adam Goldman : Gee, you think Matt might be a DRUMMER? 13:25:10 From John Flaherty : Love it! 13:25:15 From Ray Toler : Ken, agree. It would be nice to have the full-spectrum FFT wave for MW Compressor. 13:25:38 From Ken Thies : Ray: I have (I think) a great one to describe the difference between analog and digital audio. 13:26:00 From Adam Goldman : KT/Ray: I often use DynEQ in mastering
so powerful
surgical, perhaps, but useful and sounds good too. 13:26:03 From Ray Toler : Preparing myself
 13:26:24 From kennethpage : Make it Funky Baby Bubba 13:26:25 From Robert Camacho To Adam Goldman(privately) : Adam, great questions to push Matt to answer. 13:26:27 From Ray Toler : Adam just went Full Horn Player. 13:26:30 From Adam Goldman : JUMP BACK!! KISS MYSELF!! 13:26:36 From Björn LindĂ©n : Where’s the horns ? 13:26:38 From Ken Thies : Adam: maybe I'm too heavy-handed. When I use dynEQ in mastering, I can always hear it's effect too much. 13:26:39 From Björn LindĂ©n : :-) 13:26:48 From Timmy Samuel : How about stacking compressors, like MW Compressor>MW Leveler>MW Limiter. Not necessarily on the same bus, but different stages? 13:27:10 From Adam Goldman : KT: yes
a little goes a long way 13:27:20 From Caxa : Stacking compressors is fine 13:27:25 From Ray Toler : Timmy, chained compressors can be a very powerful tool. It can also lead to disaster in short order, if you’re me. 13:27:30 From Adam Goldman : Timmy: can work, but can easily get to be too much if you’re not careful 13:27:36 From Benoit Widemann : There is an offer today to grab this one for $29.99: https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/bx_xl_v2.html The voucher code is 'BX-XL-2999'. I grabbed it and did some quick tests, sounds pretty cool! 13:27:39 From Ken Thies : Ray: the old "telephone" game is analog. If you instead write a number on a scrap paper and each person just copies that number to a new scrap of paper - THAT's digital. 13:27:59 From Timmy Samuel : It’s been
less than successful when I’ve tried it before. 13:28:00 From Adam Goldman To Robert Camacho(privately) : Robert, which questions? 13:28:02 From James Paschall : What about EQ-ing? Before compression, after compression? Both? 13:28:04 From Ray Toler : I like it, Ken. 13:28:13 From jraoul : Maybe expand the low and high ends of the middle range, and just use that? 13:28:20 From Ray Toler : James: “It depends.ℱ" 13:28:33 From jraoul : Mind meld! 13:28:37 From Jeremy Johnson : Does everything on Performer Lite still apply to regular DP? In other words, can Mondays help a beginning regular DP user or do they only apply to the Lite version? 13:28:38 From James Paschall : Check, Ray! 13:28:44 From Adam Goldman : Ray/JP: great non-answer. 😊 (but true for me too) 13:28:48 From Ray Toler : Typically, I compress after EQ, because EQ can make levels change in certain frequencies. 13:28:57 From jraoul : Jeremy — everything applies 13:29:12 From Ken Thies : Jeremy, Matt said yes, if it's in DPlite, it works in DP10. There's just mokre stuff in DP10. 13:29:24 From Jeremy Johnson : Thanks!! 13:31:17 From Charlyn Bernal : Love color codes and being able to seeing other layers at once. 13:31:24 From Eric Witt : How do you focus just on one end of the compressor? 13:31:34 From James Paschall : Dynamic approach vs EQ on bass mud. Got it Matt. 13:31:37 From Ray Toler : James, exception is if I’ve gotten the signal where I want it dynamics-wise, but am just adding some gentle high end boost or a low-end roll-off. 13:31:46 From Adam Goldman : Eric: there are ‘solo’ buttons for the different frequency ranges in MW Compressor 13:32:04 From Ray Toler : I always forget that this plug has the larger UI. 13:32:07 From jraoul : Rocco Prestia! 13:32:08 From Adam Goldman : ROCCO!!!! 13:32:12 From James Paschall : Cool, Ray. 13:32:26 From Robert Camacho To Adam Goldman(privately) : All the DP 101 questions - he knows so much about the programs that when he goes 101, it’s great 13:32:31 From Timmy Samuel : I never knew about this PreAmp view. 13:32:34 From Timmy Samuel : Derp! 13:32:47 From jraoul : Adam - he sat in with a wedding band I was in once. Eventually, the rest of TOP took over for us. 13:32:55 From Neil McCarroll : Many speakers and amp combos will fall to pieces trying to deliver a dynamic low end if the drivers are also handling the prominent mid-range info - tame your low end dynamics and minimise likelihood of muddyness on ‘average’ playback systems. 13:32:59 From darrellsmith : Could this work as a mic pre? 13:33:27 From Adam Goldman To Robert Camacho(privately) : Robert
.very cool
it’s my goal to try to be careful not to break up his rhythm too much, but try to satisfy as many questions from participants as I can
.sorry if I’ve missed asking him ones that should be answered for everyone’s benefit 13:33:30 From James Paschall : Cheers, Neil! 13:33:38 From Warren McRae : Darrell
 only after you record it 13:33:48 From darrellsmith : Warren: Thanks 13:33:49 From Eric Witt : Thanks Adam’ 13:34:15 From Eric Witt : I suppose this effect is not used with virtual instruments? 13:34:37 From Ray Toler : Eric, you certainly can use it with VIs. Can provide some nice coloration to the signal. 13:35:16 From Ray Toler : In general, Eric, you don’t need to distinguish between a VI’s signal and any other recorded track. It’s all audio. 13:35:38 From Adam Goldman : Eric: yes, what Ray said. 😊 13:36:03 From Eric Witt : Thanks Adam and Ray. 13:36:37 From kennethpage : Ray & Adam. Would you have to bounce to audio first to get this to work with VI 13:36:41 From Adam Goldman : DP shows effect “chains” vertically. What’s above feeds what’s below. (Signal travels Top to Bottom, generally) 13:36:48 From Ray Toler : Eric, you could either apply this plug on the audio track that has the recorded stuff out of your VI, or you could put it after the VI on the VI’s instrument channel. 13:36:54 From Robert Camacho To Adam Goldman(privately) : It’s all good 13:37:00 From Adam Goldman To Robert Camacho(privately) : 👍 13:37:17 From Ray Toler : Kenneth, no, you can put it directly on the instrument track’s insert chain. 13:37:28 From kennethpage : Thanks Adam 13:37:32 From Ray Toler : *BUT* that means that you’re printing the effect when you render/record. 13:37:40 From Ray Toler : Which you may not want. 13:37:50 From kennethpage : Thanks Ray 13:37:59 From Adam Goldman : BOOTSIE!! 13:38:20 From Ray Toler : aaaaahhhhhhhhwwwww yeah, baby bobba... 13:38:37 From Ray Toler : Everything’s on the 1 13:38:53 From Adam Goldman : Every. Single. Thing. 13:39:24 From Neil McCarroll : loving the drums - is that Matt? 13:39:34 From jraoul : Bypassed 13:40:05 From kennethpage : Everybody’s Funkin’ 13:40:25 From Neil McCarroll : Never used the Preamp - think it’s time to play... 13:40:39 From Ray Toler : This is an important point - you don’t want to do too much stuff to a soloed signal. It’s very important to go back and work with the larger mix. You can get the most amazing sounding kick / bass / whatever solo, but it doesn’t work with everything else. 13:41:08 From John Boyle : Has Matt ever had somebody really come back at him about the amount their tone has changed? 13:41:12 From kennethpage : I’ve done that Ray 13:41:12 From Benoit Turgeon : what about without coloration 13:41:13 From Caxa : @Ray +10000 13:41:16 From James Paschall : Point taken, Ray. 13:41:33 From Ray Toler : Adam just lost his mind. 13:41:35 From darrellsmith : Bari!!!!!! 13:41:44 From Bob Turner : Yea Barri Sax!!! 13:41:44 From James Paschall : lol 13:41:48 From jraoul : Maybe keep the crunch on the bass but lower the level a hair 13:41:55 From Reed Robins : I had a bet on when the trunpet would come out
 13:42:05 From Reed Robins : *trumpet 13:42:06 From Adam Goldman : (my bari is across the room, and too damn heavy to pick up for a quick second) 13:42:09 From Ray Toler : What was the over/under, Reed? 13:42:13 From James Paschall : lol. Reed. 13:42:31 From Reed Robins : Ray! That’s exactly what I was searching my brain for!! 13:42:34 From James Paschall : Beat the spread. 13:42:50 From Ray Toler : I don’t know that I’ve ever launched this plugin. I know what I’m playing with this afternoon... 13:42:52 From Adam Goldman : Ray: you almost seem to suggest I had a mind to lose. Appreciate you, pal, for the hopeful thinking. 13:43:16 From Ken Thies : Adam/Reed: off-topic quick second, still no joy on the 2-pages in quickscribe idea. Still hunting... 13:43:26 From Reed Robins : Thanks Ken! 13:43:26 From Ray Toler : Just one of the many services I offer, Adam. 13:43:33 From Adam Goldman : Ray: you’re hired. 13:43:51 From Ray Toler : Sweet! 13:44:01 From Neil McCarroll : God dang - this webinar is getting me feeling funky! 13:44:05 From Adam Goldman : (hired by a guy who has no mind to lose) 13:44:15 From Adam Goldman : FUNKY LIKE A BOW-LEGGED MONKEY!!! 13:45:33 From Maestro DL Stryles : Had my Woofers woofing Adam !! 13:45:48 From Adam Goldman : They were saying my name??? 13:45:52 From Adam Goldman : :-P 13:46:20 From Neil McCarroll : my feet are starting to move like Grandpa Joe after Charlie finds the golden ticket in the Wonka bar! 13:46:27 From Adam Goldman : NEIL!!! 13:46:58 From Ray Toler : I love Matt’s definition of “really long.” I’m routinely trying to get multiple bars out of these plugs. 13:47:05 From Bob Turner : Now let's hear the vocal with the rest of the band? 13:47:14 From Adam Goldman : Bob
me too 13:47:41 From Ray Toler : Neil, stay away from the fizzy lifting drinks. 13:47:51 From Robert Camacho : These DP 101 sessions are the Nazz 13:47:53 From Adam Goldman : Neil/Ray: or have more of them 13:48:12 From Benoit Widemann : sounds mono here 13:48:30 From Adam Goldman : Benoit: dotted is subtle, I suspect 13:48:46 From Neil McCarroll : lol Ray/Adam! 13:48:52 From Benoit Widemann : Zoom doesn’t supports dots 13:48:58 From Bob Turner : Benoit: Zoom doesn't always do well with stereo. 13:49:04 From Adam Goldman : Benoit!! 13:49:11 From Benoit Widemann : -s 13:49:34 From Neil McCarroll : What was the name of the plugin used after PreAmp-1? 13:49:46 From Adam Goldman : Neil: echo? 13:49:48 From Ray Toler : Sonic Modulator (?) 13:49:49 From Ken Thies : I usually get stereo in these webinars, but mono for me as well. Thought it was my loopback routing, but maybe not... 13:50:27 From Neil McCarroll : Ray - yep that’s the one - thanks 13:51:45 From James Paschall : Eddie Kramer said the faint signals in the a cappella break in Whole Lotta Love was a mistake, but never explained how. I assume it was print through for the initial signal, and then they added delay for the post signal. 13:51:48 From Benoit Widemann : makes no difference 13:52:09 From Neil McCarroll : interestingly Sonic Modulator only available as mono-stereo, that!s why I couldn’t find it for a stereo track 13:52:16 From Caxa : @Ray talking of insanely long
 do you have Paulstretch? 13:52:28 From chris : Yeah love Paul stretch 13:53:30 From Ed Martel : Thanks James. I couldn’t find it either and was just about to ask that question. 13:53:49 From Maestro DL Stryles : PaaaaaalllllllllStrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeettttttccccchhhhh 13:53:49 From Ed Martel : Sorry, Thanks Neil. 13:54:19 From Caxa : It’s. Insanely long time stretch (another free one) https://xenakios.wordpress.com/paulxstretch-plugin/ 13:54:32 From John Boyle : I got it here. Very cool 13:54:34 From Neil McCarroll : The regular Delay is a bit too complicated for me - I like this analogue one, think it’s going to be good for simple slap back effects. 13:54:40 From Bob Turner : It's really subtle. 13:55:28 From Jeff Taylor : Where did he get the sonic maximizer plug-in? 13:55:40 From Reed Robins : Also transient heavy material might be easier to perceive regarding the X-feed. 13:55:44 From Ray Toler : Caxa, not falling for it! (But I’m going to go look it up now). 13:55:50 From Robert Thomas Mein : MOTU 13:55:57 From Neil McCarroll : Jeff - Sonic Modulator? 13:55:58 From jraoul : Jeff - it’s in DP, but won’t appear on stereo tracks 13:56:02 From Warren McRae : Adam.. why are we picking on Bass players? 13:56:06 From Bob Turner : The bass player has to be your Buddy!!! 13:56:16 From Paul Lenart : Bands vs sidemen 13:56:19 From Adam Goldman : warren: they’re tough
they can take it 😊 13:56:31 From Ray Toler : Ohhhhh yeah. Yeah, I’ve played with this in the past. 13:56:32 From Caxa : @Ray It free. link posted above 13:56:36 From John Boyle : @Adam, that was my question, thanks 13:56:47 From Neil McCarroll : V impressed by new NI Rickenbacker bass plugin 13:56:48 From jraoul : Spatial Maximizer, not Sonic 13:56:49 From Warren McRae : Ok.. 13:56:50 From Jeff Taylor : I see it. Thanks 13:56:56 From Benoit Widemann : Sounds like Tamla Motune 13:57:11 From Warren McRae : Adam.. good save!! 13:57:22 From Ray Toler : The one I *really* miss was a free program from AudioEase called Th0nk. You fed it some audio and it did a massive granular stretch. No controls, you just got what you got, but it was an amazing sound source creator. 13:58:00 From Björn LindĂ©n : Ray, didn’t they do a plugin version of think ? 13:58:07 From Neil McCarroll : Benoit - lol! 13:58:16 From Björn LindĂ©n : thonk.. 13:58:21 From Caxa : Don’t remember ThOnk - good band name though 13:58:22 From Ray Toler : Using multiple tracks for a single vocal was one of the best mixing Quality of Life things ever. 13:58:30 From Tom Lewis : Like Phil’s echoes on In The Air Tonight
 13:58:40 From Ray Toler : Björn, yes, they had a full granular plug called River Run. 13:58:46 From Neil McCarroll : oh Lord... 13:58:56 From Ray Toler : I miss that one, too, but Th0nk was really fun. 13:58:58 From Björn LindĂ©n : :That’s it :-) 13:58:58 From Benoit Widemann : Ray, did you try the granular stuff in Falcon? I’m attracted to that too :) 13:59:15 From Ray Toler : I don’t have Falcon, but I’ve loved granular since the 90s. 13:59:30 From jraoul : Hey! I don’t see Sonic Modulator either 13:59:41 From Benoit Widemann : Don’t abuse Granolar 13:59:41 From jraoul : mono or stereo 13:59:50 From Ray Toler : I’ll probably get Falcon at some point in the future. 14:00:02 From Ray Toler : Benoit, +1000. A little goes a long way. 14:00:03 From Neil McCarroll : Notorious MLP 14:00:46 From Björn LindĂ©n : Don’t abuse Granola ? 14:01:03 From Ray Toler : A little granola goes a long way, too. 14:01:23 From darrellsmith : no sonic modulator on my side as well 14:01:35 From Thomas : Insert is It’s muted 14:02:02 From Neil McCarroll : Darrell - only available as mono-stereo, you can’t find it on a stereo track 14:02:21 From jraoul : Neil - I can’t find it on mono or stereo tracks 14:02:23 From darrellsmith : Oh, roger that thanks Neil 14:02:36 From kennethpage : I wish that I was as fast as Matt. I’d get a lot more done 14:02:52 From Neil McCarroll : jraoul - hmmm... 14:03:00 From John Boyle : This group is more fun than human beings are allowed to have. 14:03:15 From Benoit Widemann : Sonic appears only on mono track 14:03:16 From Ken Thies : John - fer shur... 14:03:17 From Timmy Samuel : It’s like passing notes in class 14:03:33 From Neil McCarroll : I’m 10.11.83650 14:03:35 From jraoul : Benoit- it doesn’t appear for me in either mono or stereo track 14:03:44 From John Boyle : @Timmy, absolutely, not that I ever did that
. 14:03:44 From Adam Goldman : Glenn’s not here, but if anyone wants to do an after party, I could set one up 14:03:51 From farber : IS it turned off in the Plugin list 14:03:52 From jraoul : I’m same version, Neil 14:03:57 From Ray Toler : Jraoul, is it possible you have a plugin set that omits it? 14:04:05 From Tom Lewis : Missed how Matt went to large view of plug ins??? 14:04:09 From Ken Thies : Neil - same build number I have... 14:04:09 From Sean Martin : where do you find the sonic modulator? 14:04:10 From Benoit Widemann : Are your DP up to date? 14:04:26 From darrellsmith : I’m all for an after partaaaaa! 14:04:33 From Adam Goldman : Adam Goldman is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: Adam Goldman's Personal Meeting Room Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4130044429 Meeting ID: 413 004 4429 One tap mobile +16465588656,,4130044429# US (New York) +13017158592,,4130044429# US (Germantown) Dial by your location +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) Meeting ID: 413 004 4429 Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kbOTX0T310 14:04:34 From jraoul : Mine is turned on in Prefs 14:04:39 From Ray Toler : btw, today is the first time I’ve ever seen that expanded UI. The compact UI is much less friendly, and I probably launched it and noped right out. 14:04:49 From Jeremy Johnson : Let’s hear part of that groovy track! 14:05:16 From kennethpage : Let’s end FUNKY 14:05:20 From Maestro DL Stryles : When doing meter changes how do you get the click to change to the new meter 14:05:21 From Ken Thies : Sonic modulator is M-S, Spatial Maximizer is S-S... 14:06:11 From Roque Baños : I have a quick question Adam. When using Proverb in a 5.1 track does it work as a true 5.1 verb? 14:06:29 From John Boyle : Matt, you are the best 14:06:30 From Ray Toler : Ironically, Pre-Amp 1 went the other direction. The large UI is the old one, then they added the simple version. 14:06:37 From Dan Wool : When’s the 10.12 update coming? 14:06:47 From jraoul : Hey, good question, Dan! 14:06:49 From Adam Goldman : DanW 😊 14:07:01 From Adam Goldman : now y’all tryna fool Matt & ME 14:07:03 From Adam Goldman : :-P 14:07:06 From jraoul : Meanwhile, I still don’t see Sonic Modulator, in either mono or stereo tracks 14:07:07 From Dan Wool : 
jk. He won’t answer that 14:07:37 From darrellsmith : I have a partner in update crime. Dan welcome. 14:07:41 From Reed Robins : I found it Jraoul. 14:08:10 From kennethpage : YEA JRAOUL 14:08:14 From Tom Lewis : Adam: is there a p-word for your Zoom? 14:08:21 From Roque Baños : Thank you so much! 14:08:22 From Neil McCarroll : jraoul - I get mine on an empty mono track, haven’t tried inserting anything else in the track. Sorry not sure why yours is being strange 14:08:48 From jraoul : It does appear in that Preferences turn on, and the box is checked 14:09:20 From Ray Toler : Jraoul, it will show up when 10.12 is released. Ask about the timing on that. ;-) 14:09:30 From Sean Martin : I had to create a mono audio track in order to find the sonic modulator 14:09:48 From Adam Goldman : Tom, no
just a waiting room. 14:09:56 From Chris Rinaman : Metagrid 14:10:03 From Roque Baños : Everybody have a great weekend! 14:10:05 From Adam Goldman : if, when I start it up, it fails us, let’s say it’ll be MOTU 14:10:09 From Tom Lewis : Adam: Thanks 14:10:09 From Adam Goldman : Bye Roque 14:10:11 From jraoul : Tried creating a new mono track and sure enough, there it is! Wonder why it doesn’t appear in “legacy” mono tracks (that date to two or three weeks ago) 14:10:12 From Ken Thies : jraoul - the track input has to be mono, the output has to be stereo. If I/O are both mono, no sonic modulator. 14:10:16 From jraoul : Thanks, guys. 14:10:21 From Adam Goldman : JR, glad you got it working 14:10:26 From Chris Rinaman : Metragrid is really easy to install— it’s already setup for DP. Took me 5 minutes to get it going 14:10:38 From Sean Martin : tripi 14:10:42 From Terry Leigh Britton : Try a Bluetooth number pad for transport control in a vocal booth. 14:10:59 From Neil McCarroll : Did anyone manage to get a working free Metagrid code from Steve Steele? 14:11:00 From Ray Toler : Metagrid and Touch OSC are both good, and an excellent use for an otherwise obsolete older iPad. 14:11:01 From Craig Hlady : DAW Control might work 14:11:06 From Russ Pfeifer : Gotta go - Cheers all! 14:11:11 From Adam Goldman : bye Russ 14:11:12 From Timmy Samuel : Never heard Frankenstein as a verb! 14:11:15 From kennethpage : Bye Russ 14:11:40 From farber : It loaded for a Mono audio track 14:11:41 From Dan Wool : +1 14:11:57 From John Boyle : +1 14:12:00 From Scott Dorton : YESS! PLEASE on DP Remote 14:12:07 From Ken Thies : jraoul - also, is there anything above in the plugin slots that converts the mono into stereo? If that happens, the lower slot will be seen as stereo input, and that too will skip over 14:12:09 From Ken Thies : Sonic Mod. 14:12:13 From Terry Leigh Britton : The Bluetooth number pad doesn't need to be booted up! 14:12:17 From Eric Chapelle : Yes! get DP remote working again! 14:12:34 From jraoul : Thies - good tip, tx. 14:12:39 From Timmy Samuel : I side-loaded DP Remote on my iPad 2. It -sorta-works on DP10 14:12:40 From Benoit Widemann : More APIs would help
 14:12:40 From kennethpage : Still let’s hear some Funky Music before we go 14:12:42 From John Boyle : Thanks 14:12:48 From Chris Rinaman : Thanks Matt! 14:12:54 From John Boyle : Hit me two times!!!! 14:13:02 From Wayne Pronzati : Thanks Matt! And Adam ;-) 14:13:02 From jraoul : Oh, did anyone identify that weird a cappella thing Ken played the other day? 14:13:04 From Scott Dorton : Great session for us, Matt. Thanks a $$$$$$$$ 14:13:12 From Ray Toler : Can I give the drummer some? Can I give the drummer some? 14:13:20 From John Flaherty : Play that funky music, Matt-boy! 14:13:25 From Scott Dorton : And Adam for holding it all together. Kudos 14:13:26 From Neil McCarroll : Lay down the boogie 14:13:30 From A&A : Just take it to the bridge. 14:13:33 From Dave Hayward : Matt the destroyer
. 14:13:34 From Benoit Widemann : Highly informative. Great session! 14:13:44 From jraoul : It was not the band Infected Mushroom — that was the name of the software company 14:13:44 From Ray Toler : When I count it off... 14:13:47 From kennethpage : We Want The Funk!!! 14:14:02 From Dan Wool : Could we Undo to last year
or 2015? 14:14:11 From kennethpage : Dan!!!1 14:14:18 From Adam Goldman : Give US the FUNK 14:14:25 From jraoul : Not Ken — Bo played it on Tuesday 14:14:40 From farber : Love the groove 14:14:44 From jraoul : Dance party at Charles White's! 14:14:49 From Bob Turner : Oh Yeah!!!!!! 14:14:52 From Scott Dorton : Tower of Power, oh Yeah 14:14:54 From Ray Toler : Jraoul: https://infected-mushroom.com/infected-plugins/ 14:14:58 From Robert Camacho : Boo Yeah! 14:15:00 From John Boyle : In the pocket 14:15:02 From Ray Toler : Manipulator is the one he demoed. 14:15:11 From jraoul : Ray — that was the plug-in. What was the track he was applying it to? 14:15:21 From Ray Toler : Ahhh. Sorry, don’t remember. 14:15:45 From John Boyle : Pink Floyd light show!!! 14:15:59 From Ray Toler : What? No guitar break??? 14:16:25 From darrellsmith : No accordion solo? 14:16:26 From Ray Toler : Wait wait wait
. a funk song under 3 minutes???? 14:16:30 From Bob Turner : Good Session today!! Gonna see if I can apply one or two of these plug-ins to the vocal tracks I recorded yesterday!! Thanks Matt & Adam! 14:16:31 From jraoul : Darrell!! 14:16:32 From farber : Thank yuuo 14:16:32 From Ray Toler : Blasphemy! 14:16:33 From Ken Thies : Thank you! 14:16:35 From Chris Rinaman : nice! 14:16:39 From Reed Robins : THANKS!!! 14:16:47 From Dan Wool : WOW!!!!!!! 14:16:48 From Warren McRae : WHATTTTTT!!!!!! 14:16:48 From Victor LeComer : Yayyyyyy!!! 14:16:48 From John Boyle : Cancel my class!!! 14:16:48 From Sean Martin : Thank you Matt, most awesome!! 14:16:52 From Bradley DePasse : After Party? 14:16:53 From James Paschall : Thanks 14:16:54 From Eric Chapelle : Thanks Matt and Adam