12:09:12	 From Glenn Workman : https://www.freqsound.com//howard/hgtv/Phony.m4v
12:17:56	 From Bob Turner : Howdy from New Mexico!!
12:18:08	 From Adam Goldman : Hey, Bob!
12:18:09	 From kennethpage : COOL here in Kansas City.
12:18:16	 From Adam Goldman : Hey, Kenneth!
12:18:29	 From kennethpage : Hi
12:18:30	 From kennethpage : Adam
12:19:00	 From kennethpage : I had a Porta - B
12:19:02	 From Roger Carr : Hi from France!
12:19:10	 From Adam Goldman : Hey, Roger!
12:19:22	 From Bob Turner : I still have my M3 and 147R Leslie.
12:19:29	 From Adam Goldman : HECKLER!!
12:19:39	 From darrellsmith : Heckler in da house!
12:19:41	 From James Tran : I had a port B in the pass, sold it and I would love to have it back.  Using B3X VI for the B3 sounds now.
12:20:05	 From James Tran : Portable B
12:20:16	 From Bob Turner : I'm using UVI's Retro Organs.  They are quite good!!
12:20:45	 From kennethpage : I took my Porta B back to the Music Store and bought a Rhodes 88 instead.
12:21:19	 From Bob Turner : I had one of those too, back in the day.  I sold it when I moved back to NM.
12:21:27	 From kennethpage : I now use Arturia’s B3
12:21:34	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : Bonjour Roger, from Los ANgeles (but I used to be in Paris)
12:21:46	 From Ken Thies : argh.. my bandwidth is limited for a few more minutes... still have about 300MB of Steven Slate drums downloading...
12:22:12	 From kennethpage : Steve Slate are Great
12:22:32	 From Adam Goldman : only wish SSD would allow you to resize the GUI
12:22:34	 From Ken Thies : Yeah, I'm looking forward to it!
12:22:44	 From Tom Lewis : Have Kurzweil SP5-8… has some great organ and piano sounds
12:22:52	 From Adam Goldman : NEIL!!
12:22:53	 From Roger Carr : Hi Edward!
12:22:57	 From Neil McCarroll : Hi folks!
12:23:22	 From Roger Carr : Hi Neil!
12:24:11	 From Robert Thomas Mein : You don’t want to recone them yourself.
12:24:22	 From Bob Turner : True!!!
12:24:34	 From Scott Dorton : AR3, Tap?
12:24:51	 From Ray Toler : Good day, all.
12:25:03	 From Adam Goldman : Ray!!
12:25:06	 From Bob Turner : There used to be a guy in El Paso, but that was 30 years ago.
12:25:06	 From Glenn Workman : joe.charles.morlock@gmail.com
12:25:12	 From Neil McCarroll : I’m a loudspeaker hoarder - I sympathise!
12:25:13	 From Glenn Workman : (717) 752-4624
12:25:20	 From Russ Pfeifer : Hey Ray!
12:25:20	 From Robert Thomas Mein : Orange County Speaker used to do it, but they’ve retired and someone that worked for them took over. Another couple of guys in North Hollywood. You CAN recone yourself, but it isn’t that expensive and WORTH it.
12:26:25	 From Adam Goldman : Musicians' Electronic Services
Musical instrument repair shop in Ardmore, Pennsylvania
Address: 798 Biddle St, Ardmore, PA 19003
Hours: 
Open ⋅ Closes 6PM
Phone: (610) 896-7311
12:26:53	 From Bob Turner : Those could actually be rheostats, rather than potentiometers.
12:27:15	 From Robert Thomas Mein : As expensive as those Adam Speaker were, that is surprising.
12:27:21	 From Eduardo Valenzuela - Chile : Hi all, hola a todos
12:27:25	 From Alle Segretti : Glenn,did you get my email :)
12:27:38	 From Ray Toler : My mains are a pair of JBL LSR4328Ps and I love them so much. Sad I didn’t buy three more to be able to do surround with them.
12:27:45	 From Glenn Workman : Alle: Yes, I replied this morning.
12:27:46	 From Ray Toler : Also sad they were discontinued.
12:28:03	 From Alle Segretti : awesome
12:28:45	 From Robert Thomas Mein : Hello Matt —
12:28:50	 From Bob Turner : Yuma temps!!!
12:28:54	 From Alle Segretti : Glenn, got your reply! I checked about an hour ago ... you're morning before coffee :)
12:29:15	 From Ray Toler : Here in Portland, we got overrun with smoke yesterday from a fire in Eastern Washington, along with 50+ mph winds. Was an interesting sunset.
12:29:42	 From Robert Thomas Mein : Remember all the people in our life that told us to go to h*ll —  We’re here!
12:29:51	 From Ray Toler : It’s been my experience that wherever you live, other people’s “weather” is always way worse than yours.
12:30:01	 From Ray Toler : At least from what gets reported on the news.
12:30:07	 From Adam Goldman : Ray: goes with the grass’s color
12:30:25	 From Benoit Widemann : Hello all!
12:30:29	 From Adam Goldman : Benoit!!
12:30:58	 From Robert Thomas Mein : Was like an oven at 8pm the other night — you would have sworn it was high noon. Can’t remember So Cal quite this hot. I’d bet on record temps.
12:31:03	 From Ray Toler : In the midwest, all I heard about were CA’s earthquakes, fires, and mudslides. In CA, all I heard about were hurricanes and tornadoes in the midwest. :-D
12:31:41	 From Ray Toler : BTW, for those who joined the afterparty on Friday, I did a pretty poor job of demoing the
12:32:08	 From UltraVioletIdea.com (gReg Silvus) : CO has been a little odd, too. Saturday: 98, Sunday: 95, Monday: 90, Today: 31 and snow
12:32:11	 From Gregg Seibert : We had the Kentucky Derby here last weekend.  So strange, but perfect weather, around 80 F and sunny all day.
12:32:13	 From Bob Turner : Wow!  That's weird!!
12:32:22	 From Ray Toler : BTW, for those who joined the afterparty on Friday, I did a pretty poor job of demoing the Spitfire British Drama Toolkit. Here are two much better videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3npdT84QC8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irH7w4dv-F0
12:33:11	 From Glenn Workman : Thanks Ray.
12:33:22	 From Benoit Widemann : Just tried, it works here
12:33:23	 From Richard Arandia : How about printer settings? Hello everyone
12:33:24	 From Alle Segretti : Hoping everyone in or near heat and fire zones is ok. Australia is watching, and feeling your pain. Especially as we can't send relief teams over :(
12:33:35	 From Björn Lindén : Adam, what kind of printer do you print to ?
12:33:54	 From Björn Lindén : Ah, OK :-)
12:34:05	 From art2ro : Hello everybody, there’s a piano library for Kontakt on sale right now for the next 5 days, if anyone interested. The Piano is a 1910 Malmsjö Grand Piano. I bought it last week, installed it last night, it’s a good library from a company in Sweden called Sampletekk. Anyway, the library is on sale for $24.99!!
12:34:15	 From Bob Turner : I got my Spitfire strings to work, but I'm disappointed that there is no marcato setting. 
12:34:21	 From Alle Segretti : Adam come to Australia, everything printed right way up and forwards :)
12:34:21	 From chris : Adam has anything else printed upside down and backwards ?
12:34:31	 From Ray Toler : Which strings, Bob?
12:34:33	 From Adam Goldman : Chris: no
12:34:48	 From chris : Wow that is bizarre
12:34:56	 From Ray Toler : Awww, no camera right now.
12:34:58	 From Bob Turner : The BBCSO strings.
12:35:18	 From Ray Toler : Ah, yes, that’s one of the limitations in the Discovery edition.
12:35:20	 From Robert Thomas Mein : Hello Bo
12:35:55	 From Bob Turner : I can't play 16th or 32nd notes!  :o(
12:36:01	 From Ray Toler : But if you like the sound of what *is* there, you’ll be happy with the other versions if/when you decide to upgrade.
12:36:06	 From Robert Thomas Mein : Hello Bo         Long time NO HERE. Feel like a mushroom.
12:36:28	 From Bob Turner : I will probably do that at some point, Ray.  Thanks.
12:36:46	 From art2ro : Anyway, the link for the piano sale is https://audioplugin.deals/deal-2/?fbclid=IwAR1YjCLHvOUGu7FyWciVxA6UlZvzIkq21N-WMkCL8l2oMLgYX7McwTiKb1k
12:36:50	 From Richard Arandia : Hello Bo!
12:37:13	 From kennethpage : Thanks Ar2ro
12:37:21	 From Victor LeComer : Thanks to Glenn, the window management program “DIVVY” is now working fabulously with all DP windows (including VIs - sans resizing). His suggestion to kill the VI floating window pref was the issue. Thx, Glenn!
12:37:28	 From Adam Goldman : Ella: HA! If I leave now, by foot I should be there….um….never. Hmmm. Imperfect.
12:38:11	 From art2ro : Anytime Kennethpage, go to the link and take a listen!
12:38:24	 From kennethpage : I will
12:38:29	 From Glenn Workman : Victor: Glad it was that easy, hope it works for 3rd party stuff as wel.
12:38:30	 From Bob Turner : Yep!!!
12:38:47	 From Benoit Widemann : I hear a lot of background noise
12:38:50	 From Bob Turner : My Rep is Patrick Cobley!!
12:38:55	 From Adam Goldman : Benoit: Yes, here too
12:39:01	 From Robert Thomas Mein : Sonsig Rev-A  is the BEST reverb/delay effect I’ve EVER encountered. Bo turned me on to it 2 years ago at NAMM. POWERFUL, lots of presets, easy to modify the presets and faster than anything I’ve ever used.
12:39:03	 From Ray Toler : (clap clap clap)
12:39:13	 From Benoit Widemann : better now
12:39:16	 From kennethpage : The Mics are still live
12:39:23	 From Bradley DePasse : (Loud obnoxious whistles and chanting)
12:40:12	 From Victor LeComer : Glenn: Yep, all VIs. Spaces, too, but still working it out systematically.
12:43:55	 From Bob Turner : Adam, I don't know how my chat got switched to Private.  Weird!!
12:43:59	 From Reed Robins : In DP, not in the system…
12:44:08	 From Adam Goldman : No worries
12:44:18	 From Glenn Workman to Alle Segretti (Privately) : Here we are in a private chat.
12:47:21	 From Andrew Culver : +1 PianoTeq, because it is modelled
12:47:41	 From Andrew Culver : Infinite variation of params
12:47:56	 From Jeff Jarvis : PianoTeq also has models of Wurlitzer and Rhodes electric pianos
12:48:18	 From Eric Witt : Is this free or is there a cost?
12:48:29	 From Andrew Culver : And their new product OrganTeq is mind-blowing
12:49:06	 From kennethpage : Eric. It cost $$$$
12:49:13	 From Glenn Workman : https://www.modartt.com
12:49:24	 From Eric Witt : kennethpage ok thanks.
12:49:26	 From Adam Goldman : https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq
12:49:26	 From kennethpage : Thanks Gleen
12:49:28	 From Andrew Culver : Three costs tiers
12:49:32	 From Jeff Jarvis : There are various versions of PianoTeq, but no free versions.  You can download a trial version though
12:49:43	 From Andrew Culver : Start with the cheapest, they all sound the same
12:49:45	 From Bob Turner : WoW!!  Even thru Zoom it sounds Great!!
12:50:32	 From Bob Turner : I'm hearing a drum!
12:50:37	 From Jeff Jarvis : As Bo said, this is not a sample library, so running this VI is very easy on the CPU and uses very little RAM
12:50:44	 From Adam Goldman : Well, Heckler??
12:50:46	 From Bob Turner : There ya go!!
12:50:57	 From Robert Thomas Mein : Sounds like it’s recorded in a basement with hard limiter. ???
12:51:03	 From Bob Turner : Yea for our resident Heckler!!  :o)
12:51:03	 From kennethpage : Thanks Adam, that helps
12:51:24	 From Benoit Widemann : Just learned the option-solo trick :)
12:51:40	 From Paul Colombo : Here is a link to the page with prices. https://www.modartt.com/buy
12:51:43	 From Adam Goldman : Benoit: Was watching that too. :-)
12:52:28	 From darrellsmith : So much for recording my piano.
12:52:41	 From Bob Turner : Go Figure!!  LoL
12:52:42	 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: HA!
12:52:45	 From Eric Witt : Don;t understand how this is different from a sampled instrument?
12:52:46	 From Andrew Culver : Bo is bang-on about multi-string iteractions
12:53:15	 From Caxa : YES my favourite EQ
12:53:27	 From Dan Wool : I have Pianoteq built into my basic startup DP template so I can start playing immediately whenever I start a new Project
12:53:46	 From Andrew Culver : @Dan nice
12:53:47	 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Samples are recordings of instruments, with multiple samples across an instrument and even multiple velocities of each. These are being entirely generated by the computer.
12:53:56	 From Glenn Workman : No recordings.
12:53:57	 From Stephen Melillo : I too have Piantoteq, love it.
12:54:10	 From Eric Witt : Glenn - Thanks.
12:54:35	 From Eric Witt : Glenn - But why is that advantageous?
12:55:21	 From Caxa : There is SO much more to Pro Q 3
12:55:37	 From Glenn Workman : Eric: That depends on how good the programming is. A recording is going to be a single instance of a sound, but with software they can compute variations, interaction between strings for example, that you can’t get in a single note recording.
12:56:06	 From James Paschall : +1, Glenn!
12:56:10	 From Eric Witt : OK, understand a bit.
12:56:24	 From Bob Turner : Ray Toler:  One thing I noticed with BBCSO: I had to increase my DP buffer to 512 to keep the Real Time processing from red-lining.  Is this normal or is my PC too slow to run BBCSO efficiently?
12:56:25	 From Jeff Jarvis : Eric: instead of a multitude of recordings of a real piano at various velocities and in various key ranges, a modeled piano uses a computer algorithm to factor in how a real piano behaves as it produces sound.  This algorithm includes what happens when a string is hit by a felt hammer at various velocties, what happens when the ampler pedal is helping down and released, what happens when more than one note is played at the same time, etc.
12:56:41	 From Ray Toler : Eric, it’s kind of like comparing a photo or movie with CGI. CGI is capable of a lot more, but how “real” it appears is dependent on the programming.
12:56:41	 From James Paschall : Thanks for the questions, Eric.
12:56:46	 From kennethpage : Eric. It’s basically about being able to control every aspect of the sound which you can’t do with a recording
12:56:47	 From Jeff Jarvis : *damper pedal
12:57:03	 From Ken Thies : Oooh, interactions... does that imply that it might do the acoustic trick of holding keys down (to keep dampers up) and hitting sFz low note in order to excite the harmonics of those higher held notes?
12:57:03	 From Ray Toler : The photo/movie will be the most realistic, but it can only be that one thing.
12:57:10	 From Adam Goldman : Eric: something of apples & oranges. A sample library can only play back those specific samples. A program that operates independently of samples creates stuff in a completely different fashion and can do different things based on the software modeling it uses to generate sound.
12:57:15	 From jraoul : Thies - yes
12:57:30	 From Glenn Workman : Ken: If its in the programming. He mentioned it did some sympathetic string interaction.
12:57:33	 From Ken Thies : Sweet! That's a trick I miss in modeled pianos.
12:57:33	 From James Paschall : Examining the overtone series, Ray?
12:57:39	 From kennethpage : Who let the dogs out?
12:57:41	 From Eric Witt : Thanks Jeff. Understand better,
12:57:43	 From Ken Thies : not nmodeled, sampled.  Brain not in gear yet...
12:57:45	 From Bob Turner : I hope Bo's dog is not a VI!
12:58:13	 From Eric Witt : Thanks Adam. Understand better.
12:58:15	 From Adam Goldman : Bo has multiple dogs. Those are real, not Memorex.
12:58:16	 From Dan Wool : I wonder why he doesn’t scale DP
12:58:28	 From Bob Turner : LoL @ Adam!
12:58:31	 From James Paschall : lol, Adam.
12:58:31	 From Robert Thomas Mein : The Sonsig Rev-A is FANTASTIC and easy to use. Best purchase I’ve ever made. Bo turned me on to it when they released a couple years ago at NAMM.
12:58:34	 From Adam Goldman : DanW: Matt suggested that earlier. Not clear why he couldn’t scale it.
12:58:46	 From Eric Witt : Thanks kenneth.
12:59:28	 From Eric Witt : Thanks Ray, so the CGI would be the program he was talking about?
12:59:34	 From darrellsmith : https://relabdevelopment.com/product/sonsig-rev-a/
13:00:17	 From Victor LeComer : QRS Room Simulatorr
13:00:48	 From Ray Toler : Eric, in my (mediocre) analogy, yes. Physical modeling has made incredible advances over the last 15 years. Eventually, we’ll have the horsepower to model things in ways that are indistinguishable from the real thing.
13:01:11	 From darrellsmith : Nice fretless
13:01:12	 From Eric Witt : Thanks Ray.
13:01:25	 From Glenn Workman : Victor: I remember going to a QRS demo at AES maybe 1985. It was in a hotel room with blankets tacked to the ceiling and walls with about 10 of us in the room.
13:01:34	 From Ray Toler : And something like Pianoteq is already at a point where you can tell it’s not an actual piano if you know what you’re listening for, but most people won’t be able to tell the difference, especially in a mix.
13:01:45	 From kennethpage : Thanks Adam, that’s my question too
13:02:00	 From Robert Thomas Mein : You should hear it on a vocal. Every kind of reflection/delay combination you could imagine, and some you’ve never imagined.
13:02:50	 From Ray Toler : This is like a nightmare scenario for me. I don’t own any of the plugs he’s shown so far… my wallet is already nervous.
13:03:06	 From James Paschall : +1, Ray.
13:03:19	 From Caxa : @Ray it’s ok I saw infected mushroom there
13:03:21	 From darrellsmith : Like Oprah, you get a reverb, you get a reverb and you get a reverb.
13:03:22	 From kennethpage : Ray, My wallet died years ago
13:03:25	 From Neil McCarroll to Glenn Workman (Privately) : disabling my PayPal account...
13:03:33	 From Neil McCarroll to Glenn Workman (Privately) : aaaaaggggghhhh
13:03:34	 From darrellsmith : We all leave with reverb plugins.
13:03:41	 From Glenn Workman to Neil McCarroll (Privately) : Neil - its you and me again :)
13:03:42	 From Neil McCarroll to Glenn Workman (Privately) : sorry!
13:03:42	 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: :-)
13:03:49	 From kennethpage : Yes
13:03:56	 From James Paschall : lol, Darrell.
13:04:08	 From Ray Toler : lol
13:04:22	 From darrellsmith : https://acondigital.com/products/verberate/
13:04:27	 From kennethpage : Help
13:05:08	 From Dan Wool : It does not come across, but we believe you
13:05:16	 From Neil McCarroll : Don’t Fear the Reverb... 🎵
13:05:26	 From Eric Witt : Same here Dan.
13:05:49	 From johnflaherty : LOL Neil
13:05:49	 From Victor LeComer : Glenn, yeah those were the days.  I had captures of some of the impulse responses we sampled back then.
13:05:50	 From James Paschall : lol, Neil!
13:06:03	 From Ray Toler : Neil, I’m already making up additional lyrics.
13:06:04	 From Björn Lindén : So what’s the best reverb for Cowbells ?
13:06:07	 From Glenn Workman : Some of these he’s demoing have trial versions you can download and check yourself. Links are in the chat above for each one he’s shown so far.
13:06:39	 From kennethpage : Thanks Glenn
13:07:52	 From Glenn Workman : At any time you can save the chat by clicking on the 3 dot bubble that is in the Chat typing field
13:08:44	 From kennethpage : I’d love to get rid of iLok
13:09:05	 From Robert Thomas Mein : I’m almost positive Sonsig Rev-A has a demo version. Play with it and you’ll understand my enthusiasm. I’m not a tech savvy guy, and even I can make stuff sound great with this every time.
13:09:05	 From Dan Wool : Is it possible Bo doesn’t know about scaling?
13:09:32	 From Adam Goldman : DanW are you having trouble seeing his screen?
13:09:45	 From Adam Goldman : Matt to the rescue. :-)
13:10:14	 From Glenn Workman : Many allow multiple iLok licenses, Pro Tools still does only 1.
13:10:38	 From Adam Goldman : Sigh. ProTools. Avid, in all their wisdom. Sorry, “wisdom”.
13:10:45	 From Dan Wool : I am. …using screen the OS Zoom to see his screen
13:10:52	 From Glenn Workman : Wisdumb.
13:10:58	 From kennethpage : I have Aparillo
13:10:59	 From Adam Goldman : Ok, DanW. I’ll jump in on that
13:11:04	 From Glenn Workman : Camarillo Aparillo
13:11:08	 From kennethpage : I love it
13:11:23	 From DB to Glenn Workman (Privately) : more Zappa from you Glenn.
13:11:27	 From Jeff Jarvis : Dan: I think Bo isn’t aware of the Command + DP zoom feature.
13:11:27	 From Dan Wool : …but if he’s showcasing plugins it’s fine like it is
13:11:29	 From darrellsmith : https://sugar-bytes.de/aparillo
13:11:30	 From Bob Turner : In order to get BBCSO to work, I had to manually place certain files in specific folders!  It was a nightmare, but I eventually got it figures out.  Took about an hour.
13:11:40	 From Glenn Workman : https://sugar-bytes.de/aparillo
13:11:42	 From Caxa : I wasn’t very Impressed with Aparillo
13:11:56	 From Ray Toler : That’s odd, Bob. Mine fired right up. Well, after 600 gigs of download time, that is.
13:12:07	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : can we hear it?
13:12:18	 From Ray Toler : Was this because you were moving it to a different computer?
13:12:35	 From johnflaherty : Yeah let’s hear what it sounds like.
13:13:12	 From Bob Turner : You got the "real" version, Ray.  I got the $49 version, so it put more load on me to make it work..... I guess!
13:13:14	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : thanks Adam
13:13:22	 From Adam Goldman : Ed, that was Glenn. :-)
13:13:23	 From kennethpage : I’ve used that same sound
13:13:31	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : Thanks Glenn!
13:13:48	 From Adam Goldman : (I had faith Bo was going to demo it. :-P )
13:13:49	 From johnflaherty : Thanks, Glenn.
13:13:55	 From Ray Toler : Bob, if you’re using the Spitfire download manager, the experience should be the same. I will say that their tech support is excellent the two times I’ve had to use them.
13:14:29	 From Bradley DePasse : Can we hear just that sound soloed
13:14:46	 From Dan Wool : Good Adam! …it’s not clear to me what Aparillo is doing
13:15:09	 From Jim Caster : Its the corona virus plugin
13:15:18	 From Bob Turner : Ray:  Ok.  I installed the manager first, but it didn't put the files where they are supposed to live.  It was a chore, but I gotter done eventually.
13:15:21	 From James Paschall : lol, Jim!
13:15:34	 From Ray Toler : Sigh. This may be the one that gets me to buy… I love odd synths.
13:15:50	 From Adam Goldman : Ray: MOTU Broke-inars
13:15:56	 From Caxa : Good plugin
13:16:06	 From Ray Toler : Bob, yeah, moving the libraries around can definitely make the Spitfire DRM unhappy. Glad you got it worked out, though!
13:16:28	 From Ray Toler : Adam, you should trademark that.
13:16:43	 From Adam Goldman : Ok, MOTU Broke-inars ™
13:16:59	 From Ray Toler : Oh look, FINALLY, one that I already own. Because Caxa is a bad influence.
13:17:22	 From Caxa : @Ray haha…..
13:17:25	 From Ray Toler : $99 for Apirillo
13:17:37	 From Daniel Scott : $99.00
13:17:46	 From Dan Wool : So a VI not an effect?
13:18:05	 From Ray Toler : Dan, yes. It’s labeled on their site as a “Textural Synthesizer"
13:18:09	 From johnflaherty : Thanks, Adam. Good que3stion.
13:18:37	 From Caxa : Apparillo is a VI Gatekeeper is an effect
13:18:47	 From Bradley DePasse : morphing
13:19:46	 From jraoul : Yes — let’s hear it!
13:20:08	 From M& M : So will it clock with DP?
13:20:22	 From Jim Caster : This is what the CDC is using for their Covid research…bring in the Aparillo, we look like we know what were talking about.
13:20:44	 From Dan Wool : Did he say Aparillo was a EW ComposerCloud thing?
13:21:11	 From Ray Toler : I believe he did, Dan.
13:22:48	 From Jeff Jarvis : the orbiter allows you to have some control of the “randomness” of the various synth components.   Sort of like having a robot twiddle the knobs, but the robot will take suggestions on how much much twiddling and which knobs will be twiddled.
13:23:01	 From Dan Wool : This is turning into an expensive webinar
13:23:15	 From Glenn Workman : Composer Cloud on sale at the moment: http://www.soundsonline.com/composercloud
13:23:26	 From Victor LeComer : There is an iPad version in the App Store. Free or 17.99 for full version.
13:23:28	 From Adam Goldman : JJ: smart robot twiddler you got there. (New Crime Lord, “Robot Twiddler” ™ )
13:23:38	 From Ray Toler : Dan, it’s not a webinar, it’s a MOTU Broke-inar™
13:23:40	 From Caxa : Yup Comet is good
13:23:47	 From Adam Goldman : (“The Twiddler” ™ for short)
13:23:54	 From Eric Witt : Glen - I suppose Comet is not wit Composer Cloud?
13:24:34	 From Glenn Workman : Eric: He was mentioning the previous one was part of the East West subscription (Composer Cloud). I don’t know about Comet.
13:24:43	 From Dan Wool : Ray: It might be! I would like to know how much each costs…if Matt can ask maybe
13:24:57	 From Adam Goldman : https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=Cdzk1Xb5XX7DlHYrNzwX24IfoBLGlnf9e28TxxakL4dz5u-ELCAAQASC5VCgCYMn2pozQpOQPoAGU34q-A8gBAcgD2CCqBEJP0GhnXd6KvcFnkjqtP_rVqiMY_tl-GIziyzx-QFWckQZu62King4rCT6Qje09aANnalUimfUDWe09uzIWbgrrIjTABPv4j-3vAoAFkE6gBlmAB9Sg9UGQBwGoB6a-G6gH8NkbqAfy2RuoB_PRG6gH7tIbqAfK3BuoB8LaG9gHAbAIAdIIBRACIIQBmgkqaHR0cHM6Ly9wb2x5dmVyc2VtdXNpYy5jb20vcHJvZHVjdHMvY29tZXQvsQktzveCM8qdVrkJLc73gjPKnVb4CQGYCwE&ved=2ahUKEwji2_DjidrrAhVtknIEHVaSCrQQ0Qx6BAgNEAE&dblrd=1&val=GgiOF6vvCaUB7CABKAAwhsTn9o7ooNepATi73pijBUDC9Z_6BQ&sig=AOD64_1YUDi2PnSt97TNIz6BI42G05hNUg&adurl=https://polyversemusic.com/products/comet/
13:24:59	 From darrellsmith : Oh, my, Ray help me. My wallet is speaking to me
13:25:00	 From Eric Witt : Glenn - I understood that. Just wondering about the other 2.
13:25:05	 From The Morning Lounge with Jill and Rich : how is he getting VOX, BASS, etc to show up in the transport
13:25:13	 From Dan Wool : …or not. we can look it up np
13:25:15	 From Glenn Workman : Comet: https://polyversemusic.com/products/comet/
13:25:18	 From Adam Goldman : oops… https://polyversemusic.com/products/comet/
13:25:19	 From The Morning Lounge with Jill and Rich : ???
13:25:32	 From Eric Witt : OK have to go . Thanks everyone again.
13:25:38	 From Adam Goldman : Bye Eric!
13:25:44	 From Ray Toler : Darrell, I’m the wrong person to ask for help. I have my credit card number’s security code memorized.
13:25:55	 From Glenn Workman : Rich/Jill: He has Markers set in the second counter rather than Measures/Frames/etc.
13:25:55	 From James Paschall : Cheers, Eric.
13:25:56	 From The Morning Lounge with Jill and Rich : never mind…i just figured it out…..didn’t know that
13:26:14	 From The Morning Lounge with Jill and Rich : Thanks GW
13:26:38	 From Glenn Workman : De-esser: https://accusonus.com
13:27:07	 From Adam Goldman : https://accusonus.com/products/audio-repair/era-de-esser
13:27:09	 From Dan Wool : Lol….what a weird kid!
13:27:16	 From Bil VornDick : Oh yes D ess Reverb on vocals and acoustic instruments  for decades
13:28:04	 From Adam Goldman : https://accusonus.com/products/audio-repair/era-plosive-remover
13:28:09	 From Glenn Workman : Accusonus does have a free trial version for their Era4 bundles etc.
13:28:36	 From jraoul : How’s it compare with Izotope?
13:29:28	 From Dan Wool : jraoul: my ? too
13:29:44	 From James Paschall : My thought too, Jraoul.
13:29:49	 From Bradley DePasse : Maybe they over used the De-Conga plug-in?
13:30:02	 From darrellsmith : Bradley for the win!
13:30:05	 From Adam Goldman : they put the cowbell plugin on the conga track
13:30:10	 From Glenn Workman : https://acondigital.com
13:30:18	 From Bradley DePasse : :)
13:30:29	 From The Morning Lounge with Jill and Rich : Lilyhammer!!
13:30:34	 From Ray Toler : That’s one of the biggest challenges for me… I get attracted to all of these very cool, and often pretty affordable, plugs, but I already have a really nice stable of software that covers most, if not all, of the same territory.
13:30:53	 From kennethpage : Yes Ray
13:31:10	 From kennethpage : True
13:31:15	 From Adam Goldman : JR/JP/DW: there’s your answer to Izotope
13:31:21	 From Caxa : Oh he’s got Glitchmachines….Great!
13:31:27	 From Dave Hayward : I used acusonics de-clipper on a couple of peaks today… amazing for the price…..I bought the standard bundle….
13:31:27	 From Dan Wool : Adam: Yep
13:32:03	 From Sean Martin : https://acondigital.com/products/acoustica-audio-editor/
13:32:44	 From Glenn Workman : https://acoustica.com
13:32:44	 From Ray Toler : *HOWEVER,* any time I find a company that has a more customer-first focus, whether that’s with less intrusive DRM, better upgrade paths, etc., I tend to jump ship.
13:33:00	 From Adam Goldman : very fickle
13:33:02	 From Adam Goldman : :-)
13:33:05	 From Bob Turner : Must be something like SoundForge?
13:33:44	 From Sean Martin : Bo are you running Komplete from the supplied HD?
13:33:50	 From Ray Toler : Yes I am. And companies should be aware of that. I’m the guy that actually writes to them to tell them why I’m no longer going to be a customer.
13:33:55	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : Bo’s sound is fading away, (very low)
13:34:08	 From Dan Wool : +1 on no Waves…for that reason
13:34:10	 From Glenn Workman : WAVES has just been difficult to work with over these many years - some great stuff - expensive - customer support was spotty - I tested for them for several years and finally gave up.
13:34:26	 From Caxa : I hate the Waves pricing policy
13:34:49	 From Caxa : The discounts are spurious
13:34:50	 From jraoul : What do you recommend instead of L1+ Ultra?
13:35:12	 From Dan Wool : FabFilter L2
13:35:13	 From Ray Toler : I’ve reached a “stasis” with Waves. Back in the day, I bought the bundle and immediately downloaded cracked versions because they actually worked better than the real ones. These days, I pop for the WUP maybe every other major version.
13:35:48	 From Dan Wool : There it is!
13:35:52	 From Ray Toler : But I try to find the devs like Klanghelm and Valhalla. Great prices, and customer-first.
13:35:54	 From Glenn Workman : https://www.fabfilter.com
13:35:55	 From jraoul : Wool — were you answering my question with the very thing he’s showing?
13:35:56	 From James Paschall : Ray, WUP = ?
13:36:02	 From Caxa : Tye L2 is superb
13:36:40	 From Victor LeComer : Waves upgrading policies are kinda wacky, too.
13:36:44	 From kennethpage : Still hot
13:36:48	 From Ray Toler : James, “Waves Update Package” - Price depends on what you have licensed, but is an upgrade to whatever is most current version.
13:36:48	 From Adam Goldman : master is automated
13:36:49	 From Dan Wool : I kept Waves Limiters for years until I discovered L2
13:36:52	 From Bradley DePasse : Need De-Hot
13:37:04	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : Bo’s music is super loud and his voice is super soft!
13:37:11	 From kennethpage : More Cool
13:37:17	 From Ray Toler : Also, WUP is capped at something like $350. Still expensive, but like I said, I only update when required to.
13:37:38	 From Ken Thies : His master fader is automated, when he pulls it down, playback snaps it back up.
13:37:40	 From Caxa : All the Fabfilter stuff is great
13:37:59	 From Ray Toler : But there are a couple of Waves things that I just can’t give up. Butch Vig vocals, the Renaissance line… a few others.
13:38:40	 From Glenn Workman : https://www.sonible.com/smartreverb/
13:38:44	 From Glenn Workman : Trial version available.
13:38:58	 From James Paschall : Any luck with the Waves Abbey Road plug ins?
13:39:17	 From Dan Wool : Be careful trying new Waves plugins that come put. It can update your system so the Waves plugins you own are no longer compatible!
13:39:31	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : Could someone ask Bo to turn up his mic volume?
13:39:56	 From Glenn Workman : Ed: We tried when we started, he says its as far up as it can go.
13:40:19	 From Ray Toler : James, I only have one or two of them. They’re nice, but I haven’t heard anything out of them that blew a similar product away.
13:40:24	 From jraoul : You’d think a giant mike like that would be louder...
13:40:25	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : ok, i didn’t hear his response
13:40:36	 From James Paschall : Tx, Ray!
13:40:45	 From Adam Goldman : JR: mic in frame isn’t the one he’s using. He’s using mic on headset
13:40:48	 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: Hes’ not using that, he’s on the headset mic.
13:40:53	 From jraoul : I was kidding.
13:40:56	 From Russ Pfeifer : He just needs to get his mic by his mouth
13:42:00	 From jraoul : But: http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/top-secret-movie-big-phone.jpg
13:42:05	 From Russ Pfeifer : The headset mic is bent away from him
13:42:18	 From Dan Wool : Yeah. It’s a problem. My sound is maxed
13:42:35	 From Bradley DePasse : I’m not hearing the effect
13:42:43	 From Charlyn Bernal : If you can ask, what mic is he using on the vocal?
13:42:51	 From James Paschall : lol, Jraoul.
13:42:58	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : and when he plays music it blows my head off like in Back to the future!
13:43:07	 From Caxa : That width control is nice
13:43:11	 From Edward Auslender @ L.A. Music Lab : much better
13:43:15	 From Dan Wool : Better
13:43:18	 From kennethpage : Excellent Glenn
13:43:29	 From Jeff Jarvis : I love simple fixes!
13:43:43	 From Bradley DePasse : Can’t hear any reverb
13:43:55	 From kennethpage : No
13:43:56	 From Ray Toler : nope
13:43:57	 From Bradley DePasse : still can’t
13:44:20	 From darrellsmith : It’s very faint
13:44:23	 From Robert Camacho : nope
13:44:24	 From Benoit Widemann : Zoom doesn’t like reverb :)
13:44:37	 From darrellsmith : It’s Zoom
13:44:48	 From M& M : No meter to see input on effect?
13:45:03	 From Stephan Haager : Zoom doesn’t like stereo.
13:45:07	 From Dan Wool : Zoom really takes to out!
13:45:15	 From Adam Goldman : I think Zoom doesn’t much like people in general
13:45:17	 From chris : Any idea what the circles represent ? Is it the AI Kmeans clustering algo?
13:45:17	 From Caxa : Get him to toggle  mute the reverb
13:46:49	 From Bradley DePasse : Density bubbles
13:47:03	 From Caxa : Ah the mushroom stuff
13:47:18	 From Glenn Workman : If you need to ask a question: you can open the Participants panel and click the Raise hand button. Adam or Matt will send a request to unmute your mic to ask your question.
13:47:25	 From Ray Toler : This one *is* a lot of fun.
13:48:01	 From Caxa : All the U-he stuff is good
13:48:22	 From Glenn Workman : https://u-he.com/products/hive/
13:48:59	 From Caxa : There used to be a cut down version of zebra free as well
13:49:03	 From kennethpage : Glenn you’re so quick
13:49:11	 From Ray Toler : One of the best things about the Dark Zebra version is that it has a ton of Hans Zimmer’s patches from The Dark Knight soundtrack. Really educational to tear those apart and see how they were programmed.
13:49:15	 From Andrew Culver : Yes Zebralette
13:49:15	 From Glenn Workman : Several free plugs on this page: https://u-he.com/products/
13:50:09	 From James Paschall : Cheers, Glenn!
13:50:26	 From Ray Toler : Always interesting to see how other folks arrange their mixer.
13:50:28	 From Andrew Culver : I’m no synth guru but their Bazille keeps me interested - complex and sequenced modulations
13:50:29	 From Glenn Workman : kenneth: My dad had an IBM Selectric in the mid 60s :)
13:50:59	 From darrellsmith : Ray: Dark Zebra?
13:50:59	 From kennethpage : Excellent
13:51:22	 From kennethpage : Glenn
13:51:48	 From Ray Toler : Darrell: https://u-he.com/products/soundsets/zebra2-soundsets.html#darkzebra
13:51:58	 From Eduardo Valenzuela - Chile : Tks Glenn
13:52:11	 From jraoul : VERY cool!
13:52:12	 From kennethpage : Zappa?
13:52:20	 From Glenn Workman : Love the low vocal - kenneth: Yes!
13:52:35	 From Reed Robins : That’s what I thought @Kenneth…
13:52:47	 From darrellsmith : Ray: Thanks. I love reverse engineering.
13:52:52	 From Ray Toler : Technically, Dark Zebra is a soundset / patch library for Zebra, but it comes with an additional version of the Zebra plug that has the customizations that HZ asked for.
13:53:24	 From jraoul : Maybe this? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=infected+mushroom+full+album+
13:53:38	 From Bradley DePasse : Can you go from one track solo and bypass of effect?
13:54:13	 From darrellsmith : Thanks JR.
13:54:57	 From jraoul : Adam - can you ask what the orig a cappella track was?
13:55:09	 From Glenn Workman : Manipulator - routed like a VI from a MIDI track.
13:55:29	 From Adam Goldman : I believe Matt is monitoring the chat more today than usually
13:55:58	 From Ray Toler : My kingdom for DP to support ARA!!!
13:56:18	 From Daniel Scott : I 2nd that
13:56:21	 From Adam Goldman : Ray: +1…except I don’t have a kingdom. :-P
13:56:44	 From Ray Toler : (My kingdom is highly leveraged, but don’t tell MOTU that since I’m promising it)
13:56:47	 From Bradley DePasse : Quartz is cool
13:56:57	 From Adam Goldman : Broke-inar ™
13:57:03	 From jraoul : It crashed on closing ?That NEVER happens...
13:57:06	 From kennethpage : Yes Adam
13:57:06	 From jraoul : (another joke)
13:57:20	 From Adam Goldman : Joke-inar ™
13:57:21	 From Chris Peck : Yes, ARA2 support please!!!!!?????
13:57:26	 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: I’ve seen that. File was closed, then Quit made it crash.
13:57:35	 From Ray Toler : JR, amazingly, I haven’t had a crash-on-quit in a very long time. All of mine seem to happen on bounces these days.
13:59:09	 From Adam Goldman : (and, worse still, but apparently required….Broke-as-a-Joke-inar ™ )
13:59:15	 From Bob Turner : I've had Bounce quit at the 3/4 point in the bound several times.
13:59:28	 From Bob Turner : bound = bounce
13:59:44	 From Ray Toler : I got bitten working “separately” as he just described because while the vox were amazing sounding in Melodyne, the intonation with the rest of the mix was waaaaaaaaaaay off.
13:59:58	 From Adam Goldman : I love Melodyne. Super powerful, and can see some stuff DP’s internal pitch editing functions don’t always see.
14:00:08	 From Stephanie Gauthier : This is the first plug-in today that I own.
14:00:19	 From Ray Toler : You picked a good one, Stephanie!
14:00:24	 From kennethpage : Expensive?
14:00:35	 From Ray Toler : Yeah, Melodyne is pretty pricey.
14:00:35	 From Charlyn Bernal : Thanks, gotta go!
14:00:49	 From Stephanie Gauthier : https://shop.celemony.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CelemonyShop.woa
14:00:53	 From Glenn Workman : By Charlyn.
14:00:59	 From Adam Goldman : https://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/new-in-melodyne-5
14:01:10	 From James Paschall : Ta, Charlyn.
14:01:11	 From kennethpage : Bye Charlyn
14:01:30	 From Adam Goldman : Different ‘levels’ of Melodyne = different prices
14:01:30	 From darrellsmith : Bye, Charlyn
14:01:47	 From kennethpage : What’s the top tier cost
14:02:10	 From Adam Goldman : Melodyne 5 Studio = $849
14:02:23	 From Adam Goldman : Melodyne 5 Essential = $99
14:02:24	 From kennethpage : WoW, Now I’m Broke>
14:02:38	 From Russ Pfeifer : play it!
14:02:56	 From Adam Goldman : Assistant = $299; Editor = $499
14:03:00	 From kennethpage : Will essential do what’s he’s demonstrating?
14:03:16	 From Ray Toler : If I didn’t already own it, I’m not sure I’d need it as much these days with DP’s built-in tools. There are definitely some very nice advanced features in Melodyne, and I still prefer it, but DP has come a very long way.
14:03:53	 From UltraVioletIdea.com (gReg Silvus) : The description sorta implies that you need Studio for chords
14:04:02	 From Adam Goldman : DP’s amazing. I’ve found with some lower pitched items (trombones for one), DP/ZTX sometimes doesn’t detect pitches that Melodyne does
14:04:06	 From kennethpage : Thanks
14:04:29	 From Ray Toler : “Never look at the trombones. It only encourages them.” —Wagner
14:04:38	 From Adam Goldman : RAY!!
14:04:47	 From Jay Farber : Funny
14:05:03	 From Ray Toler : (Son of two trombone players and it was my first brass instrument as well)
14:05:07	 From darrellsmith : Robert stand up, please.
14:05:25	 From Adam Goldman : OLD joke….definition of an Optimist: jazz trombone player with a beeper
14:05:27	 From Caxa : I got some version of Melodyne free and never really used it…. But changing loop chords…that’s a gamechanger!
14:05:41	 From Bob Turner : Gotta Scoot.  Tons of TOYS!!  Way above my pay-grade!!  LoL  See ya'll Thurs.
14:05:49	 From Adam Goldman : Bye Bob
14:05:55	 From darrellsmith : See ya Bob.
14:05:56	 From Glenn Workman : Bye Bob.
14:05:57	 From kennethpage : Bye Bob
14:06:04	 From James Paschall : C ya, Bob.
14:06:16	 From Russ Pfeifer : I have Plug-in envy
14:06:33	 From Reed Robins : @ Adam UPDAT: definition of an Optimist: jazz trombone player with a iPhone
14:06:39	 From Reed Robins : *UPDATE
14:06:58	 From Ray Toler : Russ, “plugenvy™”
14:06:58	 From James Paschall : lol, Russ, Adam.
14:07:23	 From Adam Goldman : (Reed: if he asks the band’s musical director to put him on speed dial.)
14:07:27	 From Russ Pfeifer : Ray for the trademark
14:07:31	 From Reed Robins : :)
14:07:40	 From Andrew Culver : Ah Logic: Can I change the guitar icon, for a ham sandwich, for example?
14:08:01	 From jraoul : Yeah!
14:08:10	 From Glenn Workman : Difference between a dead trombone player in the middle of the road, and a dead snake in the middle of the road? The snake might have been heading to a gig.
14:08:10	 From Ray Toler : Andrew, yes, but you’ll have to use a jailbroken hackintosh to do it.
14:08:33	 From Andrew Culver : It just looks like a toy to me
14:08:44	 From jraoul : Skid marks before the snake
14:08:48	 From Andrew Culver : Thx Ray
14:08:50	 From Adam Goldman : but change it to a CATwich…that’s a different story.
14:09:05	 From jraoul : Crashed on quitting? That NEVER...
14:09:13	 From Ray Toler : Andrew, if you were asking a serious question, then I have no idea. :)
14:09:17	 From Jeff Jarvis : glen: and the snake has skid marks in front of it as cars try to avoid running over it
14:09:43	 From Ray Toler : And I thought MY plugin window was bad...
14:09:52	 From Andrew Culver : @Ray hard for me to get serious about Logic
14:09:56	 From Glenn Workman : https://thehouseofkush.com/products/omega-n
14:10:05	 From Glenn Workman : Jeff :)
14:10:13	 From Russ Pfeifer : Wallet death by a thousand $29 - $49 cuts
14:10:20	 From Ray Toler : Andrew, every time I’ve flirted with it, I end up going to war with The Environment™ and rage-quit.
14:10:26	 From Glenn Workman : At any time you can save the chat by clicking on the 3 dot bubble that is in the Chat typing field
14:10:27	 From darrellsmith : What is summing?
14:10:42	 From Dan Wool : But what happens if I put THAT though a summing mixer?
14:10:43	 From Ray Toler : Darrell, the sum of multiple channels.
14:11:10	 From James Paschall : The whole is greater than the sum of its channels.
14:11:30	 From Glenn Workman : Only 2 times?
14:11:34	 From Caxa : Shoutout for Klanghelm VUMT @   $29
14:11:36	 From Ray Toler : Some people feel that they get better sonic quality by summing out of the box. I don’t have golden ears, but I’ve never heard a major difference than ITB since AD/DA boxes got so good.
14:11:45	 From Ray Toler : +50 for Klanghelm
14:12:50	 From Glenn Workman : Ray: I had an engineer that was adamant that that running the main outs back into DP was different than a bounce. I took both waveforms with one 180 degrees out of phase, and played them both. Total silence. He still didn’t believe me.
14:12:51	 From darrellsmith : Ray: Thanks
14:13:20	 From Bil VornDick : Who put out the transformers Softube? cause I wanted them to do that 4 years ago.Just running audio through a for instance , Old Pultec with it on and doing nothing warms a mix up
14:13:26	 From Adam Goldman : thanks, everyone!!
14:13:30	 From Andrew Culver : Bo: Also the second mixing project allows you to be more creative with the sounds - as they are - for some reason
14:13:30	 From James Paschall : Thanks, Bo!
14:13:36	 From Ken Thies : Thank you!
14:13:37	 From Ray Toler : The only reason I can see to do external summing (in my limited experience) is that the hardware is imparting its own character.
14:13:37	 From darrellsmith : https://thehouseofkush.com/collections/plugins
14:13:38	 From Max Winkels : Thanks, Bo!
14:13:40	 From Neil McCarroll : thanks Bo and everyone :)
14:13:41	 From Sean Martin : Thank you Bo, Matt and all.
14:13:42	 From Reed Robins : Thanks Bo!!!!
14:13:47	 From Stephanie Gauthier : Thanks Bo!
14:13:48	 From Glenn Workman : Thanks Bo.
14:13:50	 From Stephan Haager : Thanks Bo!
14:13:50	 From Dan Wool : Yay! Bbye!
14:13:53	 From James Paschall : Thanks all!
14:13:56	 From darrellsmith : Thanks Bo
14:13:56	 From Ray Toler : Thanks, Bo! My wallet, however, does not thank you.
14:13:56	 From Glenn Workman : lastudiotech@gmail.com.
14:13:58	 From Nozomi Takasu : Thank you Bo!