12:17:37 From darrellsmith : Hello everyone…. 12:17:38 From kennethpage : Bright & Sunny in Kansas City 12:18:47 From Benoit Widemann : Hi all! 12:19:52 From Geert D'haene : Hi to everyone 12:21:40 From Jay Farber : Good Morning/Day 12:22:18 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: you’re cracking me up. :-) I was wondering who was going to heckle me first. Can’t claim total shock it’s you. 12:22:39 From Adam Goldman : WOW, JR! 12:22:54 From Adam Goldman : that’s a GREAT background image. :-) 12:22:54 From kennethpage : Darrell the heckler 12:23:05 From Jay Farber : Heckle, Heckle 12:23:09 From Adam Goldman : Kenneth: he had to leave the frame, laughing too hard, I bet 12:23:19 From jraoul : The old vomiting clown. 12:23:55 From darrellsmith : i’M A NEW COMIC VILLIAN! 12:24:40 From darrellsmith : Yeah, jraoul the correct spelling is Back!!!!!!!! 12:24:50 From Jay Farber : Hypothetically 12:25:02 From jraoul : No, auto-correct looked at “jarful” and changed it. 12:25:28 From Bob Turner : Howdy from New Mexico!! Hope Hurricane Laura doesn't affect too many people as it makes it's way back to the Atlantic from Arkansas!! 12:26:24 From Terry Leigh Britton : I think this hurricane has decided to go after everybody, Bob... 12:26:26 From Eduardo Valenzuela : Hola a todos 12:26:38 From jraoul : Hola, Eduardo 12:26:47 From Glenn Workman : Hola 12:26:50 From Bob Turner : You are making a good point, Terry! 12:27:10 From jraoul : Vomiting clown 12:27:35 From James Paschall : Malibu. 12:27:52 From Bob Turner : Hey Matt!! 12:28:03 From kennethpage : Matt has arrived 12:28:06 From jraoul : Be vewwy vewwy qwiet 12:28:21 From Russ Pfeifer : The Malibu Clown 12:28:49 From Ella Segretti : @kenneth in case I flake out this morning, I'll be waiting for you to wake up and call :) 12:29:19 From kennethpage : I need a number Ella 12:29:53 From Ella Segretti : @kenneth Facebook like last time is fine! We'll zoom from there 12:30:06 From kennethpage : Excellent 12:30:59 From Ella Segretti : @kennethive written 2 screenplays in the last 3 days, hope I've got one more for tonight :) 12:31:06 From James Paschall : 2 hours prep for every hour taught. 12:31:22 From kennethpage : Again Excellent Ella 12:31:31 From Bob Turner : Join the crowd!!! 12:31:34 From James Paschall : +1, Adam and Neil! 12:32:39 From Adam Goldman : ok, rub it in, Darrell. :-P 12:32:58 From Ken Thies : Sorry t be a moment late, running a little behind today... 12:33:11 From Adam Goldman : Ken T: eat more 12:33:25 From Adam Goldman : (you’ll have a bigger behind then) 12:34:37 From Ella Segretti : @nozomi if your interested, I've got a female only project coming up and would love a Motu musician :) 12:36:21 From jraoul : Hey, Adam - when you have a sec, could you clarify which sense of the word “beat” you’re using? 12:36:50 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: I think he’s talking about the beat detection, the little lines that show up as a graphic. 12:36:53 From Ella Segretti : @jraoul perhaps using a stick on clowns?? 12:37:08 From jraoul : Glenn + Ella - both right 12:38:34 From darrellsmith : Where’s Timmy? 12:38:52 From Charlyn Bernal : Ella, what’s your email? Or are you on FB messanger? 12:39:06 From Timmy Samuel : Somewhere in Texas. I’m not sure where. I was lost. :-) 12:39:12 From Nozomi Takasu : @Ella, I’d love to! I can sing (multi languages), compose, and if you are making video I can dance and act. 12:39:22 From jraoul : Timmy — not so fast! Let us guess first! 12:39:31 From Ella Segretti : @charlyn Facebook is easiest most times facebook.com/allesegretti 12:39:33 From Adam Goldman : JR: beat up; beat down; walk a beat; beat it. Sufficient? 12:39:38 From kennethpage : Nozomi is multi talented 12:39:49 From Timmy Samuel : Sorry! Thought Darrell was asking me. 12:39:51 From Jay Farber : Matt needs to let forgetting go, his stay are really great considering the number of hours spent. 12:39:56 From Jay Farber : Stats 12:39:57 From Adam Goldman : Nozomi: what part of the world are you in? 12:40:10 From darrellsmith : Timmy:LOL! 12:40:10 From Ella Segretti : @nozomi yes I know you sing *wink* 12:40:14 From jraoul : Adam - when an omelet comes along, you must beat it 12:40:24 From Adam Goldman : touche, JR. 12:40:33 From Charlyn Bernal : Sorry, that was for Nozomi! Oops! Have fun! 12:40:45 From Ken Thies : @Adam: *that* behind is already big enough, when it comes to crawling behind racks and cables.... ;-) 12:41:03 From Adam Goldman : Ken T: don’t break anything. ;-) 12:41:33 From Ella Segretti : @nozomi could bring you a character too depending on how we can shoot. anyway let's chat and work from there. 12:42:02 From Ken Thies : I hear ya. I should send you some pix (if I can findn them) of the console I used to have to do acrobatics under/behind/around. Got my exercise in those days.... :-) 12:42:23 From Ken Thies : (That was to Adam) 12:42:30 From Adam Goldman : KT: I always kept (keep) a hand mirror to reduce the crawling/fumbling around 12:42:37 From Timmy Samuel : Is the Performer Lite library just a subset of the DP library? 12:42:39 From Adam Goldman : and a headlamp 12:42:40 From Nozomi Takasu : @Adam; I’m in Nashville now, have lived Australia a min, but grew up in Japan! Learned DP in Japanese :D 12:42:42 From Adam Goldman : ;-) 12:42:49 From Glenn Workman : Timmy: Yes, a subset. 12:42:56 From Adam Goldman : WOW…learned DP in JAPANESE. Amazing. 12:43:04 From Timmy Samuel : Thanks! 12:43:09 From Adam Goldman : I’m still struggling with ENGLISH 12:43:19 From kennethpage : Me too Adam 12:43:33 From Adam Goldman : wasn’t my first language….started out speaking BABY 12:43:34 From Glenn Workman : Adam: DP has a Japanese localized version. 12:43:53 From Adam Goldman : Glenn: it’s all Greek to me 12:44:06 From jraoul : Adam - that’s a good joke 12:44:16 From Ken Thies : @Adam, 'fraid in that situation, it wasn't a matter of seeing, I had to do the climbing in order to get where I had enough joints to even reach the thing... 12:44:17 From Glenn Workman : Adam: Its great seeing the DP beta notes with screen shots in Japanese. 12:44:19 From kennethpage : I still speak Jive 12:44:32 From Adam Goldman : KT: ah, joints. Totally different 12:44:33 From Ray Toler : Jraoul, don’t encourage him! 12:44:34 From Glenn Workman : kenneth: You and Barbara B. 12:44:40 From kennethpage : Yes 12:45:02 From Adam Goldman : Glenn/KEnneth: I don’t drink coffee, though. 12:45:12 From Ella Segretti : @nozomi One of my best friends is Yoshiko Mihara, one of the Honda grandaughters :) She's a concert pianist. I recorded attack played by her for my wedding years ago (should have got a divorce track too!) 12:45:14 From Nozomi Takasu : @Ella Cool! Looking forward to it! I’ll find you on FB page later! 12:45:58 From Glenn Workman : Nozomi: She posts in the MOTUGuru section frequently. Just be aware the name there is Alle not Ella. 12:46:22 From Adam Goldman : Ella in reverse 12:46:34 From Adam Goldman : (my youngest child is Ella too :-) ) 12:46:55 From Glenn Workman : Split (not Cut) 12:47:20 From Ella Segretti : long story to Alle and Ella ... revolves around my ex and a professional name sticking :) 12:47:23 From Eric Witt : waveform editor is always with audio? 12:47:31 From Adam Goldman : Eric W: yes 12:47:32 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Yes. 12:47:53 From Ella Segretti : @Adam us Ella's are awesome :) You should introduce us ... a global Ella Talent team :) 12:47:58 From Eric Witt : Thanks Adam and Glen. That is what I thought. 12:48:10 From Adam Goldman : Ella: that’s a plan. Mine turns 11 tomorrow. :-) 12:48:18 From Ella Segretti : @nozomi awesome! look forward! 12:48:26 From Eric Witt : Do you think that the wavform editor in the future will be able to be used with the virtual instruments? 12:48:52 From Kenneth : Is editing destructive in wave form editer 12:48:55 From Adam Goldman : Eric: only audio, so you could use it with a VI if you rendered VI into audio…..is that helpful? 12:49:18 From Ray Toler : Is anyone else getting occasional distortions / buffer echos on this one? I suspect it’s me because my AVB stuff has been having clock tantrums the past couple of days, but before I go reboot… 12:49:21 From Ella Segretti : @Adam oh that's actually perfect!I've got a children's project were going to make a proof of and I'm keen to find kids around the world aged maybe as low as 8 to around 14. 12:49:23 From Eric Witt : Adam- I know. But I was talking about in the future, like in a later version do you think that will change? 12:49:26 From Adam Goldman : I LOVE Memory & Record strips 12:49:35 From Timmy Samuel : I do too! 12:49:47 From Timmy Samuel : They’re SO helpful. 12:49:50 From Ella Segretti : @adam if she's got an interest in acting :) 12:49:56 From Nozomi Takasu : @Adam It was a struggle they tried to translate but most were written in “Katakana” which is like alphabet tell the sounds. I’m re-leraning with English now and I understand better! 12:50:05 From Ray Toler : When the strips first showed up I was “meh” but I’ve come to love them. 12:50:08 From Adam Goldman : Ella: my Ella is named for Ms. Fitzgerald … she’s true to her name…a very musical kid, actually. Great ears. 12:50:19 From Adam Goldman : and a great mimic 12:50:32 From Jay Farber : I have a weird quirk on DP10 older Macpro, where I am having to hit many commands 2 times to get them to take place. Anybody seen that before? 12:50:34 From Adam Goldman : EricW: not aware of a plan for that 12:50:55 From Eric Witt : thanks Adam. 12:50:56 From Adam Goldman : Nozomi: call me impressed by far 12:51:12 From Ella Segretti : *pain* katakana is as bad as simplified Chinese :) 12:51:13 From darrellsmith : Adam: that’s awesome. Team Ella! 12:51:42 From Adam Goldman : I’ll be telling Ella (mine) that she was a topic in today’s session. :-) 12:51:55 From Ella Segretti : @Adam how's she go on DP?? Maybe she can do composing for the project :) 12:52:02 From Ray Toler : Speaking of little things, I actually had “strip silence” work flawlessly today while prepping a remix project. 12:52:22 From Jay Farber : Miracles do happen 12:52:26 From darrellsmith : Ray: Nice! 12:52:29 From Nozomi Takasu : @Ella d love to here about your best friend too! Talk later ^^ 12:52:36 From Adam Goldman : Ella: we only a week or so ago orchestrated a piano piece she’s learned. She played it into midi, and then we moved things around to be an orchestra’s sound set 12:52:48 From Adam Goldman : she’s spent a lot of time in here (my studio) 12:53:20 From Ella Segretti : @nozomi :) I miss Tokyo. was planning on living there for 6 months this year :/ 12:53:27 From Adam Goldman : she’s the red-headed kid in one of the videos of a song made here (in DP, of course)… 12:53:29 From Adam Goldman : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmDaPtyaxeLOs9f8NyT58oQ 12:53:38 From UltraVioletIdea.com (gReg Silvus) : Tea in the Sahara? 12:54:01 From Glenn Workman : Greg: Just a BIT faster :) 12:55:30 From UltraVioletIdea.com (gReg Silvus) : No, actually, Walking in your Footsteps, but yes different tempo 12:55:38 From Ella Segretti : @Adam Well I'd be very open to chat with her. I've got two really cute very energetic local girls aged 6 and 9 I'm trying for the lead roles. one sings ... The more I can orient the project for the kids to execute the more I feel it's going to appeal to kids globally. 12:55:38 From Medialab : Can we copy from Sequence A into Sequence B? 12:55:59 From Ray Toler : Hey there, Mr. Brontosaurus... 12:56:10 From Adam Goldman : MediaLab: A into B? 12:56:14 From Russ Pfeifer : I hear it 12:56:24 From Ray Toler : @Medialab, you mean from one chunk to another? 12:56:34 From Glenn Workman : 8 beat loops, but since they trigger every 4 beats, they can trigger at different start times. 12:57:22 From Edward Auslender : Can the loops be of different lengths? 12:57:47 From Glenn Workman : Edward: Yes, any length. And doesn’t have to be divisible by 2 or 4 etc. 12:58:13 From Edward Auslender : @Glenn, Great, thanks, Do they have to be full measures? 12:58:20 From Glenn Workman : Edward: No. 12:59:04 From Edward Auslender : I want to experiment with poly rhythms 12:59:08 From Glenn Workman : The red circles show how many beats the clip contains to the right, and which beat is currently being played is the number that is advancing to the left of the red circles. 12:59:19 From Adam Goldman : Mr. Musical Matt LaPoint!!! 12:59:26 From Nozomi Takasu : @Adam @Ella I @Glen I’m slow to read here and Matt’s voice becomes music to my ear. Lol I’ll read later/ chat later ^^ 12:59:37 From Adam Goldman : Nozomi: :-) 13:00:04 From kennethpage : Me too Nozomi 13:01:08 From Ella Segretti : oooo so we can play the track in loops!! ahhh that gives me a tool I was looking for! 13:01:12 From Glenn Workman : You can also put an Empty cell in a scene to cut/mute an existing channel. 13:01:12 From Adam Goldman : Stretch is a SUPER POWER 13:01:36 From Jay Farber to Glenn Workman (Privately) : Hey Glenn , Have you scene this issue I'm having? I have a weird quirk on DP10 older Macpro, where I am having to hit many commands 2 times to get them to take place. Anybody seen that before? 13:02:41 From Edward Auslender : Can the Clips be programmed? Or do they have to be performed live? 13:02:51 From Glenn Workman to Jay Farber (Privately) : I haven’t had that problem. Is there some other program running that might be grabbing the key presses? BTW just making sure you sent that just to me, not the list. Since we’ve become “co-hosts” the option to send private messages has become active. 13:03:08 From Jay Farber to Glenn Workman (Privately) : Yes Private, tried earlier to everybody 13:03:14 From Charlyn Bernal : holy cow! This program is really deep! 13:03:26 From Adam Goldman : Charlyn: You said it!! 13:03:26 From Ella Segretti : can the movie window be synced whilst working in clips?? 13:03:38 From Jay Farber to Glenn Workman (Privately) : I don't think I have a. Secondary app that would do that. 13:03:47 From Glenn Workman : Edward: You can record the live performance and/or edit it like Matt is doing. 13:04:12 From Ella Segretti : @charlyn Sure is! most people will use 20% :) 13:04:13 From Glenn Workman : Edward: Clips can be put together like Lego in the Tracks or Sequence Window as well. 13:04:57 From chris : Did the PDrums he brought in get recorded in that example? 13:04:59 From Charlyn Bernal : Starting film program Monday in New 13:05:15 From Charlyn Bernal : Mexico 13:05:17 From Edward Auslender : Thanks Glenn 13:05:18 From Glenn Workman : chris: Yes out at Bar 90 and beyond where he was working. 13:05:19 From Adam Goldman : Chris: I believe they were 13:05:27 From chris : OK thanks 13:05:28 From Ella Segretti : *squeal* My life just became easier for those scene motif transitions!! 13:06:11 From Adam Goldman : Ella: SCORE! (both meanings there….”goal”; music. :-P ) 13:06:18 From Neil McCarroll to Glenn Workman (Privately) : Charlyn - sounds awesome, have fun :) 13:06:22 From Ella Segretti : @charlyn is your interest film? 13:06:32 From Neil McCarroll to Glenn Workman (Privately) : aaaaasggghhhh 13:07:05 From Neil McCarroll : Charlyn - sounds awesome - good luck:) 13:07:18 From James Paschall : Sounds like fun, Charlyn. Health good? 13:07:35 From Ella Segretti : @Adam oh absolutely! So pleased I upgraded to DP10 this year :). And the webinars have proven so reference tool quick 13:07:57 From Glenn Workman to Neil McCarroll (Privately) : :) 13:07:58 From Adam Goldman : Ella: it’s all about Matt LaPoint. :-) 13:09:23 From Charlyn Bernal : Ella - I want to understand more about film process for composing to film and to meet film makers here. I am doing production editing and sound design which I am really interested in as I did a lot of it in the past like Jeepers Creepers 13:09:56 From Ella Segretti : @Adam haha indeed. actually I've been doing Epic Unreal Engine webinars and the guys were working much like Matt and kept apologising for "not being teacher like" which I think comes from many an Aussie Webinar training where people are institutional rather than fluid and experienced. the Epic guys were to Unreal what Matt is to Motu. 13:10:27 From Adam Goldman : Ella: Matt pretty much over most anyone else, I figure 13:10:54 From Ella Segretti : @Charlyn welcome to chat with me :). I'm always looking for potential collaboration especially women. 13:10:58 From Ray Toler : @Adam, re: our FB conversation, if you don’t already have one, you might look at picking up a used TR-8 (not the S unless you need the extra stuff). Would be a decently cheap MIDI controller with 11 faders. 13:11:39 From Tom Lewis : Wasn’t that pref set for DSP instead of ZTX? 13:12:14 From Eric Witt : Can stretch be used with virtual instruments? 13:12:30 From Ella Segretti : @Adam apparently I "teach" the same way. I'm told by people who have never worked around film be it technical or acting, that the way I take people through makes techniques so simple to understand. Though I'm about 0.01% of a Matt LaPoint with my DP experience :) 13:12:33 From Adam Goldman : EricW: again, for audio, so, rendered, yes 13:12:42 From Ray Toler : Eric, it’s used on Audio. Once you record the VI, yes. 13:12:45 From Glenn Workman : Eric: You’d just use the MIDI notes. Quantize or move those. 13:12:54 From Adam Goldman : Ray: cool tool, but might be too big for my desk 13:12:54 From Ray Toler : Look at Adam typing faster than me. 13:13:03 From Ken Thies : Tom: Matt mentioned in a past webinar that stretch uses ZTX regardless of the prefs settings. 13:13:04 From Adam Goldman : hahaha, Ray 13:13:10 From Eric Witt : Thanks Ray and Glenn. 13:13:21 From Tom Lewis : Ken: thanks! 13:13:41 From Ella Segretti : I was editing a car sequence in DP which was 200% the video record speed, using stretch I was able to take it back to 100% in sync with each shot change. couldn't do that in Soundtrack Pro :) 13:13:59 From Ray Toler : @Adam, yeah, it does take up some space. 13:14:27 From Adam Goldman : Ray: preordered a “traveler console”…looks pretty small, but effective…hopefully https://store.monogramcc.com 13:14:44 From Ella Segretti : when you cut a soundbite in a track, can you layer the cut as a take easily? 13:15:53 From Glenn Workman : Ella: Not sure what you mean. If you have layers on a single take it can cut just the top layer. You can always copy pieces to a New Take. 13:16:38 From Ella Segretti : so cut, copy, and paste as new take. 13:17:16 From Charlyn Bernal : Yes, health good, titrating off chemo for first time in 14 years! I beat it! i feel so behind in technology - my 6 year old niece runs rings around me! 13:17:21 From Neil McCarroll : Stretch isn’t a great name then?? 13:17:33 From Glenn Workman : Charlyn: Congratulations. 13:17:34 From Ray Toler : @adam, I know Christian Henson (Spitfire) liked his earlier model of that, but did complain about it dropping out every now and then. Hopefully they’ve stomped those bugs. Really tempting piece of kit - I look forward to your review. 13:17:38 From Edward Auslender : What is that ladder mark 13:18:11 From Jay Farber : Charlyn: if you ever need help, I'm an Appel consultant for 20 + years. 13:18:23 From Jay Farber : Just cant spell 13:18:38 From Raymond Melvin : 👋🏽 So, does the streets layer change the timing of the soundbite independently from the conductor track’s timing? 13:18:46 From Raymond Melvin : stretch* 13:18:59 From Adam Goldman : Ray: Yes, CH’s review indicated issues. Apparently this is a very new version…even a reorg of the company…and hopefully, as you say, they quashed those bugs, improved the design/construction/software component. You’ll know once they send me the thing(s). 13:19:06 From Charlyn Bernal : jay, cool! How do 13:19:13 From darrellsmith : Charlyn: Congrats! 13:19:21 From Glenn Workman : Raymond: It doesn’t affect the conductor track. Its using the grid the conductor track creates. 13:19:27 From Simon Foster : Hi guys - On Clips - how do you get the clips to play independently of the sequence? 13:19:28 From James Paschall : That’s great news, Charlyn. My cystoscopy last Thursday was negative…so 2 years neoplasia free for me. 13:19:46 From Adam Goldman : Raymond: Stretch will allow you to change Conductor BPM and audio will stay conformed to Conductor 13:19:46 From darrellsmith : Congrats James! 13:19:48 From Jay Farber : JFMconsulting.com 13:19:57 From Adam Goldman : JP: woohoo! 13:19:59 From James Paschall : Thanks, Darrell. 13:20:02 From Raymond Melvin : Got it - thanks Glenn 👍🏽 13:20:13 From James Paschall : Adam, :) 13:20:15 From Charlyn Bernal : Jay, message me on FB or email charlynbernal@gmail.com thank you! 13:20:21 From Ella Segretti : @Charlyn technology is just a tool that does the same thing as pencil :). Don't see it as complex and overwhelming, see it as a pencil case with lots of choices. 13:20:25 From Neil McCarroll : Awesome news James! 13:20:43 From Charlyn Bernal : than you! 13:20:51 From James Paschall : Cheers, m8! 13:21:23 From Charlyn Bernal : James, way to go! 13:21:30 From Glenn Workman : Simon: You can just go to a measure past any tracks with data and then start working there. 13:21:34 From darrellsmith : Oh my, alot of hands raised. 13:21:35 From Eric Witt : What is a vac? 13:21:40 From Eric Witt : via? 13:21:43 From Eric Witt : vca 13:21:52 From Ray Toler : Eric, a VCA is a fader that moves other faders. 13:21:57 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Voltage Controlled Amplifier 13:22:00 From Simon Foster : ah - thx Glenn 13:22:01 From Ken Thies : Edward, the "ladder" shape is more or less how DP distributes the stretch/compression between beats. The midpoint is a limit, but it can be shifted to a point if need be. 13:22:09 From Ray Toler : And it moves them proportionally to how they’re already set. 13:22:15 From James Paschall : Thanks, Charlyn. 13:22:27 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: he’ll slice that Gordian knot. :-) 13:22:29 From Eric Witt : OK thanks Glenn and Ray. 13:22:34 From Glenn Workman : Simon: Or just have empty tracks in a sequence. 13:22:46 From Edward Auslender : @ Ken, thanks, very clearlyexplained 13:23:45 From edshearmur : Hey Matt, Adam, Jim - any plans to add VCA spill to DP? It’s a great mixing workflow 13:23:52 From Ella Segretti : Geez Matt's rolling today. I was trying to work out how to group faders a few days ago! 13:24:26 From Glenn Workman : Ella: He said he was going to be doing a recap of the DP10 “new” features, so yes he’s moving right along. 13:24:31 From Ken Thies : Ella, there are a couple of ways to do it, the new VCA method is probably the coolest... :-) 13:24:35 From Ray Toler : Eric, a common scenario is that you’ve got a nice mix of your drums or background vox, and want to be able to move them all up or down as a group while keeping the submix balanced. As Matt just showed, it’s important when you are also sending signal through one of the sends (e.g., to a reverb) 13:24:43 From James Paschall : Thanks, Matt! 13:25:10 From Eric Witt : OK thanks Ray. 13:25:34 From Ella Segretti : Ken, VCA absolutely! Just like we ganged faders on the Yamaha mixers :) 13:25:47 From Glenn Workman : Bradley: Wally! 13:25:55 From jraoul : +1 loved loops 13:26:08 From Benoit Widemann : +1 13:26:19 From Ken Thies : Ella, :-) I go back to grouping faders on a console with a strip of white gaff tape... ;-) 13:26:49 From James Paschall : And store them on hangers in the closet, Ken? 13:26:54 From Ella Segretti : Ken! yes! Done that too! And broken pencil pieces and blutac :) 13:27:19 From Dan Wool : -1 Loops never never seemed to work for me. I almost never used them 13:27:23 From jraoul : I admit I’m coming around on Clips — I can see how they can be very useful. But they are NOT the same as loops, and don’t do what loops did so efficiently. 13:27:25 From Adam Goldman : I used to put a drumstick on the board to indicate a ‘section’ of the board 13:28:03 From James Paschall : Cool, Adam. 13:28:15 From Adam Goldman : Drumsticks serve many functions :-) 13:28:23 From jraoul : Adam - did you have drumsticks of different lengths? 13:28:29 From Adam Goldman : (don’t annoy the drummer) 13:28:30 From jraoul : Turkey drumsticks, duck drumsticks... 13:28:32 From Ella Segretti : Early digital lighting desks didn't gang faders ... took years before we could group! 13:28:36 From Adam Goldman : JR, yes 13:28:40 From Neil McCarroll : That’s some workout Glen!! 13:29:57 From Adam Goldman : JR ice cream drumsticks 13:30:23 From Glenn Workman : 10 cents when I was in school. Milk was 2 cents. 13:30:33 From Adam Goldman : Glenn: man, you’re old 13:30:42 From jraoul : pop-ups! 13:31:05 From jraoul : ow! 13:32:03 From Ella Segretti : Thought I was going to fall asleep this session but Matt's got me wide eyed and glued! 13:32:14 From Bob Turner : Russ is sharpening his knife!! :o) 13:32:31 From Adam Goldman : Bob: then I adjust….don’t annoy Russ 13:32:44 From Bob Turner : Right On!! 13:33:01 From Nozomi Takasu : @darrel didgeridoo? 13:33:16 From darrellsmith : Nozomi: Yes! 13:33:17 From Bob Turner : Ahhh. Thanks Russ! 13:33:49 From Nozomi Takasu : @Darrel I looooove the instrument and their culture 13:33:50 From Adam Goldman : missed that…Darrell you have a dig? 13:34:05 From Adam Goldman : (I have one … amazing thing) 13:34:41 From Dan Wool : I’m optimistically thinking this DP10 refresher means a DP update is imminent. 13:34:48 From Adam Goldman : Looks very much like mine! (Upstairs though, so I’ll have to grab it for another day.) 13:34:58 From darrellsmith : And it’s midi too. 13:35:09 From Glenn Workman : darrell: :) really? 13:35:14 From Adam Goldman : WOW….those termites are POWERFUL 13:35:15 From darrellsmith : No 13:35:15 From Adam Goldman : :-P 13:35:25 From Adam Goldman : (sophisiticated) 13:36:11 From James Paschall : lol dudes. 13:36:16 From kennethpage : I toured Japan with a percussionist who had a Didgeridoo. Security hates these things 13:37:31 From Dan Wool : Not just security hates them :) 13:37:37 From kennethpage : Ha 13:38:30 From kennethpage : We got stopped every time, everywhere 13:38:39 From Dan Wool : I had girlfriend that had a fight or flight response to didgeredoos 13:39:18 From Ray Toler : I love them, but now can only hear Aphex Twin when I think about them. 13:39:33 From jraoul : Could you show us that Ken tip on screen share? 13:39:40 From Ella Segretti : I can play a didge! only instrument I play intuitively :) 13:39:59 From darrellsmith : Maybe Ken could screen share that tip. 13:40:00 From Charlyn Bernal : Jay, thank you! 13:40:09 From Jay Farber : Anytime 13:40:12 From Ray Toler : I tried to play a dig once. I need the Lungs 2.0 upgrade, though. 13:40:29 From Adam Goldman : Darrell/JR: I’ll ask Matt for share of Ken’s tip so it can be seen 13:40:36 From Adam Goldman : Ray: :-) 13:40:38 From Ella Segretti : Must be my Aboriginal ancestry DNA :) 13:41:02 From darrellsmith : Ella: Nice! 13:41:06 From Charlyn Bernal : Sean - cool instruments! Wow! 13:41:14 From Ken Thies : jraoul: I willl put together a short video this afternoon, and ask Glenn to post it with the other short videos (can't recall the url at the moment) 13:42:02 From Ray Toler : My brother got all of the Native American DNA. I ended up with all of the Scotch / Irish / German. 13:42:04 From Ken Thies : Adam: if desired, I happen to still have the project up where I discovered it this morning, so I could offer the screen share from here... 13:42:12 From darrellsmith : Boy I was trying to one up Bradley and Adam on the drumsticks. I think may have pleasantly triggered fond memories of the didge. 13:42:30 From Glenn Workman : glenn@freqsound.com - I’ll post it to the short training videos posted here: https://www.freqsound.com/motuuserfiles/TrainingVideos/ 13:42:39 From jraoul : The drumsticks triggered fond memories for me of the fridge. 13:43:04 From darrellsmith : jraoul: Lol! 13:43:40 From Ray Toler : You have to be really strong to use didges as drumsticks. 13:44:21 From Ray Toler : (Or *very* hungry) 13:44:30 From Adam Goldman : or Billy Cobham 13:44:51 From jraoul : Tx, Ken. 13:45:33 From Dan Wool : Shoot. I wish we could have seen Ken’s SOLO mode custom skin 13:45:37 From Ken Thies : jraoul, I'll still do that video for posting, so that the idea can be revisited as desired. 13:45:51 From Dave Hayward : Underwater didge? 13:45:57 From darrellsmith : Dan: it was really cool. 13:46:08 From Ella Segretti : like a spreadsheet freeze to lock rows or columns 13:46:21 From UltraVioletIdea.com (gReg Silvus) : Ella: Yes, great idea 13:46:24 From Nozomi Takasu : @ken(nethpage) I’d love to hear about the tour sometime! :) @Ella Aboriginal music/culture is very fascinating! Excited to chat with you later! 13:46:29 From darrellsmith : Ken: Nice theme usuage. 13:46:33 From darrellsmith : usage 13:46:35 From jraoul : Yeah, Ella, a number of people have suggested a number of situations where that kind of feature would be handy. 13:46:45 From Ray Toler : I was thinking exactly that, Ella. And it would be awesome to lock any track and not just one. 13:46:49 From Dan Wool : Darrell: Did he show it? 13:46:55 From Ella Segretti : @Nozomi Sure is! look forward! 13:47:03 From Glenn Workman : Dan Wool: The skin info is in the document here: https://www.freqsound.com/motuuserfiles/MOTUWebinarExtras.pdf 13:47:31 From Dan Wool : Glenn:Thx! 13:47:32 From kennethpage : Be happy to talk about the tour Nozomi. It was with David Pastorius, Jaco’s Nephew 13:47:34 From darrellsmith : Glenn for the win, Dan. 13:47:50 From Ella Segretti : Composing Newbie I don't even use the conductor track, I'm usually trying to hide it :) guess that might change as I compose more :) 13:47:58 From Glenn Workman : Dan: That was about Greg Tripi’s custom skin, but the info applies. 13:48:03 From Ken Thies : Dan Wool: sorry I didn't do that. I'll add that to the short vid I'm making. 13:48:08 From Adam Goldman : what is new, yes, perhaps….but….what is HIP??? 13:48:30 From jraoul : Tell me! Tell me! 13:48:54 From Adam Goldman : if you think you know... 13:49:03 From Glenn Workman : Ella: I always want the conductor track showing. Much like a column or header track in a spreadsheet. I use Markers so much and that’s where you can manipulate them well. 13:49:21 From Dan Wool : Ken! Cool! I’d love to have a look…before I do the mod 13:49:37 From Ray Toler : We’ll have to ask the Tower what constitutes hip. 13:50:09 From Ella Segretti : Glenn ahh Markers yes, Long scenes ... that's next month :) 13:50:29 From Adam Goldman : Ray: well, the passing years will show 13:51:54 From Glenn Workman : Alternate Tool - doesn’t have a key assigned by default, you have to add it yourself. 13:52:43 From Dan Wool : Glenn: Trippi’s mod is a bit different I think than what Ken’s doing S i understand it, Ken’s mod switches the skin when in solo is enabled. …is that right? 13:52:53 From Dave Hayward : I thought default shortcut to Alt tool was X 13:53:21 From Adam Goldman : DaveH : there’s no default keystroke for Alt tool…as glenn said above you need to add one yourself. 13:53:40 From Glenn Workman : Dave: Could be right. I use Z and X for Zoom in/out, so maybe my Commands have overwritten the default. 13:53:57 From Ken Thies : Well, it doesn't switch the skin so much, I've simply edited the image files which hold the fader style. It hold 4 different fader modes, and I just re-colored the different modes so that they get color in those modes. 13:54:03 From Ray Toler : perhaps my #1 Quality of Life feature requests is that DP start showing the current keyboard shortcut as a tooltip for the various icons. 13:54:04 From Bob Turner : "H" tool doesn't latch. Only works while holding down the h key ,right? 13:54:27 From Adam Goldman : BobT: that’s what it looked like when Matt was using it 13:54:30 From Glenn Workman : Bob: Correct, the key has to remain down. 13:54:32 From Ken Thies : Solo becomes yellow, muted is blue, record-armed is red. 13:54:40 From Glenn Workman : that’s what it kept repeating the H on the screen. 13:55:11 From Dan Wool : Ken: I see…I think? 13:55:28 From Adam Goldman : Timmy: where y’at at? 13:55:45 From Timmy Samuel : Texas. 13:55:53 From Adam Goldman : not today, Thanks. 13:55:56 From Ken Thies : Dan, I'll definitely do the vid this afternoon, and make it known in the MOTUGuru group. 13:56:21 From Dan Wool : Ken: When DP is updated, do you need to reinstall the mod? 13:56:22 From Ray Toler : WEST Texas, Adam. 13:56:38 From Adam Goldman : Sheesh, Laura. Behave yourself! 13:56:52 From Dan Wool : Awesome Ken! Thank you 13:57:07 From Adam Goldman : What a HUGE list of DP 10 enhancements!!!!! 13:57:15 From Eric Witt : Why was the retrospective record not in black the last time? 13:57:16 From Simon Foster : some real nuggets here! 13:57:17 From Ken Thies : Not as long as I do an update as opposed to a remove/reinstall. My mods are saved in a new theme with my own name, so it doesn't get stomped on. 13:57:35 From Ella Segretti : what Ray said!!! keyboard shortcuts as tool tips!! 13:57:35 From Dan Wool : Ken: Cool 13:57:39 From Mark Rasmussen : Eric: He had not entered any midi info 13:57:51 From Ray Toler : Yeah, 10 had a lot going on. There was a question about upgrading on one of the MOTU FB groups about favorite new features and I was able to come up with 10 things almost immediately. 13:57:52 From Eric Witt : oh ok thanks Mark. 13:57:54 From Simon Foster : @eric - possibly the track wasn’t enabled to record 13:58:20 From Dan Wool : Creating a custom skin is the key 13:58:56 From Ken Thies : Dan: that said, when an update looks like theme capabilities are significantly enhanced, I will re-create it from the latest theme I borrowed it from. 13:59:23 From Dan Wool : Ken: Understood 13:59:37 From Dan Wool : I heard my name! 13:59:38 From Benoit Widemann : What’s that arrow on the right of “Rel” checkbox? 14:00:00 From Benoit Widemann : new secret feature for grid? 14:00:07 From Ken Thies : Benoit: nudge amount 14:00:08 From Dan Wool : This method won’t advance the movie unfort 14:00:18 From Ray Toler : This was one of my top ten favorite new features - REW/FF are finally useful to me using the numeric keypad. 14:00:35 From kennethpage : Me too Ray 14:00:39 From Benoit Widemann : why is it missing on my DP? 14:00:43 From Dan Wool : It only advances the wiper when in the SE etc 14:00:48 From Ray Toler : So much faster to jump in multiples of 4 bars now. 14:01:12 From Glenn Workman : Benoit: There are settings that can alter what shows in that Grid section. I’ll locate and post in a second. 14:02:21 From Dan Wool : We need that in the SE!! …please 14:02:51 From Adam Goldman : I asked for that function many times…to be able to reorder tracks in a group 14:02:57 From Adam Goldman : SO great improvement in 10 14:03:01 From Dan Wool : Hopefully this reorder behavior will make it to the SE 14:03:39 From jraoul : The in-bite gain control doesn’t have the same range as the event information gain control. 14:03:42 From Dan Wool : I know I’m a freak, but almost never use the TO 14:04:11 From Glenn Workman : Benoit: Open Snap Information: Click the mini-menu and choose Configure Info Bar. 14:05:06 From Glenn Workman : Dan: I have a friend who runs a studio and never uses TO either. Every time I work there he says “how do you do X” and I say, you know that window you never use, its IN THERE! 14:05:27 From kennethpage : Nice Glenn, Thanks 14:05:31 From Adam Goldman : Glenn: :-) re TO 14:06:10 From Mark Kelso : Thanks, Glenn. 14:06:19 From Dan Wool : Glenn: I know. We need a support group. SAA, SE Addicts Anonymous 14:06:26 From Russ Pfeifer : I stepped away, what’s TO? 14:06:30 From Ray Toler : I’m the opposite. I spend 80% of my time in either the TO or the mixer. SE is my “how do I do this?… oh yeah” space. 14:06:36 From Adam Goldman : Tracks Overview, Russ 14:06:36 From Ray Toler : Track Overview, Russ 14:06:41 From Adam Goldman : :-P 14:06:43 From Russ Pfeifer : thnx 14:06:44 From Adam Goldman : What Ray said 14:06:50 From Ray Toler : What Adam said. 14:07:29 From Benoit Widemann : Glenn: thanks… that was the best hidden one. :) 14:07:37 From Eric Witt : Instead of commands can you use the Run command for this? 14:07:40 From Dan Wool : Most, virtually all DP users mainly use the TO 14:08:26 From Glenn Workman : Russ: Abbreviating many of the window names: SE Sequence Editor TO Tracks Overview MB Mixing Board ME MIDI Editor. I’ve not used these on the board here often because I didn’t think most people would grok them. 14:08:44 From Ray Toler : 80% may be overstating it for me.. Was thinking about when I start doing soundbite surgery / mix arrangements and realize I’m in the SE a lot more than I realize. 14:09:06 From jraoul : Velocity tool also works in the Note layer, not just the velocity channel. 14:09:16 From jraoul : Tx to whoever mentioned that the other day! 14:09:30 From Glenn Workman : Ray: Its TO, ME, and MB for me. I wish I could reorder the tabs in the CW (Consolidated Window) and remove ones I rarely use. 14:09:30 From Ken Thies : Grok, there's a word I've not heard since.... 14:09:31 From Stephen Burch : Great info today Matt. Gotta run. Thanks. 14:09:44 From jraoul : Share water, brother, grow ever closer. 14:09:47 From Glenn Workman : Bye Stephen. 14:09:50 From Adam Goldman : KenT: you beat me to it…Grok is not one everyone uses 14:09:58 From Dan Wool : I can read the SE much better than the TO…TO looks like a thumbnail view to me 14:10:01 From Ken Thies : Heinlein, for sure.... :-) 14:10:07 From Adam Goldman : KT: :-) 14:10:10 From Timmy Samuel : Coincidentally, I read the word “ken” and in my head thought it’s synonymous with “grok”. 14:10:12 From kennethpage : Stranger 14:10:13 From James Paschall : Always an educational pleasure, Matt. Thank you so much! 14:10:24 From Adam Goldman : Timmy: I ken that 14:10:49 From Ken Thies : Totally unrelated trivia, I named one of the cats Valentine Michael Smith.... 14:11:00 From Mark Kelso : TOTALLY an SE guy, although back in the US, i have a wall full of monitors so I can keep aux windows open 14:11:02 From Timmy Samuel : Ken: +1 14:11:04 From Dan Wool : …but I know the TO has lots of extra functionality. Such as the new reordering! 14:11:12 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: NOW is when you ask Matt….”when……?” 14:11:21 From Russ Pfeifer : Stranger on a Strange Thread 14:11:34 From Ken Thies : Russ +1 :-) 14:11:35 From Adam Goldman : Russ: :-) 14:11:46 From Adam Goldman : Strnager than Friction 14:12:02 From Timmy Samuel : DP is a Harsh Mistress. 14:12:11 From Adam Goldman : Timmy: I ken that too 14:12:19 From James Paschall : Docendo discimus. 14:12:28 From darrellsmith : When? 14:12:30 From Ray Toler : But Timmy, There’s Time Enough for Quantize. 14:12:49 From Timmy Samuel : :-P 14:13:02 From jraoul : There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Loop 14:13:10 From Adam Goldman : Darrell: Matt mentioned upcoming features he’s psyched to share with us….so…. :-P 14:13:35 From darrellsmith : Hey Matt, when are the updates being released? 14:14:09 From Mark Kelso : Sorry, I came on late due to a magnetic waterfall here. How did Matt get those velocity marker tails? 14:14:10 From Adam Goldman : DLS: NOW you’re talkin 14:14:25 From Glenn Workman : Mark: Its in the Preferences. 14:14:42 From Mark Kelso : Thanks, Glenn. 14:15:39 From Mark Kelso to Glenn Workman (Privately) : Where is the tails setting in prefs? 14:16:13 From Glenn Workman to Mark Kelso (Privately) : Preferences/Editing/MIDI Editing. 14:16:57 From Mark Kelso to Glenn Workman (Privately) : That is where I looked and couldnt find it in 10.11 14:17:25 From Mark Kelso to Glenn Workman (Privately) : I have show velocity as a bar checked 14:18:27 From Adam Goldman : talk about “the lightbulb lighting up” when you understand an idea….gReg’s background takes that to a new level :-) 14:18:31 From Dan Wool : darrell: LOL, I’ll give you a dollar if he says when :) 14:18:57 From Mark Kelso to Glenn Workman (Privately) : I figured it out, I think, I already had it checked and am so zoomed in that I thought they were note durations! Thanks! 14:19:03 From Dan Wool : …and “very soon” doesn’t count 14:19:32 From Mark Kelso to Glenn Workman (Privately) : No, sorry, that wasn’t it. Hmm 14:19:42 From Adam Goldman : DanW: :-) 14:19:47 From kennethpage : Nice Grand behind Caleb 14:20:04 From jraoul : Kenneth — the piano is real; Caleb is virtual. 14:20:09 From kennethpage : Ha 14:20:14 From Adam Goldman : JR: :-) 14:20:31 From Adam Goldman : JR: you think that piano is trying to vomit on Caleb? 14:20:51 From kennethpage : Hope not 14:21:10 From Adam Goldman : might be a bit ‘damper’ than a clown’s 14:21:11 From Adam Goldman : :-P 14:25:33 From darrellsmith : Garry, mentioned Nextar. Does anyone have this controller? 14:26:03 From James Paschall : I have Nektar 25+. 14:26:15 From darrellsmith : Do you like it James? 14:26:20 From kennethpage : Nozomi, How do I contact you? 14:26:30 From Timmy Samuel : Great question art2ro 14:26:38 From James Paschall : Yes, just got it hooked up so now notes and cc’s. 14:26:56 From darrellsmith : James: Cool. 14:27:01 From Glenn Workman : Mark: Same area in Preferences: Continuous Data - On Velocities. 14:27:36 From Nozomi Takasu : @ken I’m on the FB group, are you? Find me there! 14:27:39 From darrellsmith : See ya MOTUnity on the morrow. 14:27:40 From Glenn Workman to Mark Kelso (Privately) : Mark: Same area in Preferences: Continuous Data - On Velocities. 14:27:48 From Bob Turner : Cool Session Today!! Actually picked up a couple new techniques to use.... Thanks Matt, Glenn & Adam. Gonna sample my wife's 1975 Hohner acoustic guitar today. Best of Luck to all of you who are in the path of Laura!! See ya tomorrow. 14:27:55 From Adam Goldman : bye, Darrell….stay safe, friend 14:28:00 From Glenn Workman : Bye Darrell. 14:28:03 From James Paschall : Cheers, Darrell…on the morrow! 14:28:08 From Jay Farber : Thanks Be safe 14:28:10 From Charlyn Bernal : Would be cool to have MOTU class FB page 14:28:10 From kennethpage : I will look even though ‘m not a facebook guy. Thanks 14:28:28 From Glenn Workman : If you want to save the chat - you can click the 3 dot bubble in the chat text area. It will save everything from when you signed on till when you click Save Chat. 14:28:59 From Glenn Workman : Charlyn: There is a MOTUGuru FaceBook page started by the folks who attend here. 14:29:04 From Sean Martin : Thank you Matt, Adam, Glenn et al. Great session. Have an awesome day. 14:29:15 From Nozomi Takasu : Ken - email nozomi.takasu@gmail :) 14:29:16 From Tom Lewis : Yes, best to all in path of Laura and stay safe! 14:29:24 From kennethpage : This was another very informative Webinar 14:29:25 From Dan Wool : Re Ar2ro’s question, what happens when you drag notes when the track is locked…back before MIDI lock was broken in DP 14:29:29 From Glenn Workman : Charlyn: https://www.facebook.com/groups/270005501025380/ 14:29:42 From Reed Robins : Thanks everyone, see you tomorrow! 14:29:55 From Charlyn Bernal : Glenn, thanks! 14:30:03 From Glenn Workman : Performer Lite files will then open up in DP, no problem. 14:30:06 From Ken Thies : @Nozomi, yes I'm on the FB group. 14:30:21 From Russ Pfeifer : Cheers All!! 14:30:34 From Edward Auslender : Nice session today. Nice to look back at all we have learned together. 14:30:39 From Nozomi Takasu : @ken oh ok! 14:30:43 From Ken Thies : @Nozomi, ah, different Ken, sorry. :-) 14:30:44 From James Paschall : Thanks Matt, Adam, Glenn, Neil, Russ, Ken, Ray…the list goes on on on! 14:31:16 From Nozomi Takasu : So many Kens I’m confused lol 14:31:17 From kennethpage : Yes, lots of awesome people 14:31:29 From Glenn Workman : MOTUnity! 14:31:32 From kennethpage : Too many Kens 14:31:33 From Adam Goldman : Nozomi: :-) 14:31:44 From Timmy Samuel : kenneth: :-P 14:32:22 From kennethpage : I was in a band where all three of us were named Ken, I named the band “Next Of Ken” 14:32:31 From Timmy Samuel : HA! 14:32:32 From Glenn Workman : kenneth: ) 14:32:36 From Ken Thies : @Kennethpage - love it! 14:32:38 From James Paschall : lol! 14:32:43 From kennethpage : True Story 14:32:54 From Glenn Workman : There’s a band here called Too Many Daves - all 4 members are named... 14:33:03 From jraoul : ...Ken? 14:33:05 From Ella Segretti : the Ken Klucks Klan? 14:33:12 From kennethpage : KKKKKKKKK 14:33:13 From Adam Goldman : Glenn: I ken that too 14:33:22 From Adam Goldman : except when I grok it 14:33:34 From Glenn Workman : I am Grok! 14:33:36 From Timmy Samuel : you guys are killing me today 14:33:46 From Ken Thies : I Grok Spock.... ;-) 14:33:47 From Glenn Workman : Timmy! (in the best South Park voice) 14:33:49 From Dave Hayward : Dave’s not here….. 14:33:50 From art2ro : Hey Glenn, is there an after party today? 14:33:54 From Benoit Widemann : A suggestion for a future session: interchange between DP and other DAWs (and vice-versa). This is so messy… 14:34:01 From Adam Goldman : no, man, I”M DAVE 14:34:12 From Adam Goldman : (Timmy) 14:34:27 From Glenn Workman : art2ro: Not today, but I can have one tomorrow if folks are interested. I’ve got a project to deliver in the next couple hours. 14:34:33 From Paul Colombo : Only with recording the clips? 14:34:44 From Adam Goldman : (oops, that was for DaveH) 14:34:46 From art2ro : No problem, thanks!! 14:34:48 From Adam Goldman : (not Timmy) 14:35:33 From jraoul : See you tomorrow, wise guys of all genders. 14:35:45 From Adam Goldman : seeya, JR 14:35:45 From Timmy Samuel : bye jraul! 14:35:49 From Glenn Workman : Bye jraoul 14:35:51 From James Paschall : There was a barista named Tad at Starbucks with height about 6’6”. I called him a tad too tall. 14:36:00 From kennethpage : Ha 14:36:00 From Glenn Workman : James :) 14:36:24 From Tim Valkenburg : Matt… you are a great educator… I really appreciate your sessions… and I’d love for the repeats to be available online as soon as possible…. I have been exclusively on DP for 23 years and this type of info is ground-breaking… long overdue actually…. DP is so awesome… but has been quite intimidating to jump into for newcomers… the friendlier and more amiable DP’s public face can be the better I reckon… (the forums can be quite off-putting)…. well done Matt… and MOTU….more of this “press the flesh”…. say hi to everyone….. don’t wait for everyone to find you… I’m the biggest fan… and even I feel pushed out from time to time… Full thumbs up Matt… thank you 14:36:25 From Bradley DePasse : Thanks Matt!! 14:36:27 From Charlyn Bernal : thanks 14:36:28 From James Paschall : Thanks, all 14:36:31 From Ken Thies : Thanks! 14:36:34 From Jay Farber : Tahnks