14:47:51	 From Glenn Workman : I’m going to make a sandwich and will be right back, you all can start without me.
14:57:50	 From jraoul : So I just clicked off the “Use same video in all sequences” option, tried adding a second video in a different chunk, and it quit unexpectedly, twice. (I have to admit it wasn’t quite as unexpected the second time).
15:00:27	 From jraoul : So I’m not the only person for whom DP crashes regularly? What a relief!
15:01:22	 From James Paschall : Need the “Don’t Panic” window.
15:01:36	 From Timmy Samuel : James +1
15:12:05	 From jraoul : Maybe this is what you were talking about?
15:12:06	 From jraoul : https://www.cracked.com/blog/the-4-hidden-downsides-life-in-rock-band/
15:14:08	 From jraoul : Good composers borrow; great composers steal
15:14:43	 From jraoul : — Stravinsky
15:15:18	 From jraoul : I tried to write a song that was a mashup of Sting and James Brown, and all my friends said it sounded like Frank Zappa
15:15:32	 From Glenn Workman : http://web.archive.org/web/20160325025343/https://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/
15:18:09	 From Glenn Workman : Balloons = Footballs in my world.
15:22:39	 From Jay Farber : https://www.samplemodeling.com
15:23:18	 From Jay Farber : https://audiomodeling.com
15:23:23	 From Bradley DePasse : https://audiomodeling.com/swam-engine/
15:28:40	 From James Paschall : Adam for the Win!
15:29:05	 From jraoul : I was playing with Tom Waits once (oops! Did I drop a name?) and we were rehearsing a song and he said “What’s that you’re playing?” And I answered, impishly, “Synthesizer” He grimaced and said “Play something else.”
15:29:07	 From Glenn Workman : https://www.freqsound.com/motuuserfiles/Progressive%20Rock.pdf
15:29:16	 From Glenn Workman : That’s the prog rock treatment.
15:29:49	 From Russ Pfeifer : Jraoul - like it
15:31:56	 From Bradley DePasse : Daryll: You may want to find a used Yamaha VL1!!! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnk8-3p45-U
15:32:08	 From jraoul : And that style of “drumming” evolved into a whole style of drumming — not a replacement for more organic playing that was happening earlier, but an addition to the drummer’s vocabulary
15:32:25	 From Adam Goldman : cephalopod drummers :-)
15:33:34	 From Glenn Workman : iPop
15:33:45	 From jraoul : My vinyl Revolver has a line I think of as part of the song “And we live beneath the waves / In our yemarine…”
15:35:36	 From John Flaherty : We all live there, jraooul.
15:35:38	 From jraoul : ANd then there were the commercial 8-tracks that would resequence albums to optimize the tape, even if it meant completely losing transitions (I’m thinking Sgt Pepper, Dr Sardonicus, Anthem of the Sun)
15:36:43	 From Bruce Barrett : Thanks everyone.  this has been fun.
15:36:50	 From Bruce Barrett : Gotta go back to work
15:36:55	 From Glenn Workman : See you Bruce
15:41:52	 From jraoul : I created a console, and the numerical display is pretty much black-on-black — you can barely see the data. Any way to change that?
15:42:09	 From Jay Farber : Is there anything good that works well with Motu
15:42:37	 From Ray Toler : jraoul, is it a theme issue?
15:42:45	 From Ray Toler : Can you change the theme and have the console change?
15:43:08	 From Jay Farber : Anybody have the link for Glenns class?
15:45:24	 From jraoul : Ray — if it is, it’s a stupid theme.
15:47:07	 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: Yes, some themes don’t work we’ll with all the text fields. MOTU keeps have them pointed out to them as they are found.
15:48:28	 From Eric Witt : Does everyone here start the process just with a pencil and not with the DAW?
15:49:13	 From Eric Witt : Rather does anyone start with the DAW?
15:49:32	 From Ray Toler : I start with the DAW most of the time, Eric.
15:49:45	 From jraoul : Eric — sometimes pencil, sometimes DAW, sometimes Sibelius, sometimes cassette recorder
15:49:48	 From Jay Farber : I start instrument in hand… then DAW
15:50:29	 From jraoul : Most of what I write is inspired by text from my collaborator, and I print that out double-spaced and scrawl ideas in pencil.
15:50:50	 From Eric Witt : Thanks.
15:52:05	 From jraoul : A famous sax player stopped in the middle of a solo. When asked why, he said “I forgot the lyrics”
15:52:36	 From jraoul : Mistakes as gifts! — Keith Johnstone
16:00:01	 From Glenn Workman : Michael Brecker
16:01:34	 From Jay Farber : https://www.google.com/shopping/product/8878522780246788041?client=safari&rls=en&sxsrf=ALeKk02tiJaXzPAhnzrDnopezt75Tkf1IA:1597175993295&q=Midi+Breath+controller&spell=1&biw=1172&bih=948&prds=epd:16517304814380351860,prmr:3&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjf6Z2f-JPrAhWUHjQIHdbwA-YQ8gII4gY
16:03:55	 From Glenn Workman : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obh_Hq7zlu0
16:04:13	 From Jay Farber : https://www.google.com/shopping/product/8878522780246788041?client=safari&rls=en&sxsrf=ALeKk02tiJaXzPAhnzrDnopezt75Tkf1IA:1597175993295&q=Midi+Breath+controller&spell=1&biw=1172&bih=948&prds=epd:16517304814380351860,prmr:3&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjf6Z2f-JPrAhWUHjQIHdbwA-YQ8gII4gY
16:04:24	 From Jay Farber : https://www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-bite-controller-2
16:04:26	 From Ray Toler : https://www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-controller
16:05:19	 From jraoul : But going back to the conversation between Darrell and Adam — it’s not just about simulating acoustic instruments. There may be all sorts of interesting new applications you might discover.
16:06:00	 From Russ Pfeifer : agreed
16:06:03	 From Jay Farber : Single instrument over a section sound does make a big difference
16:06:15	 From Ray Toler : Here you go, Glenn: https://zepfhyr.com/blog/2008/11/smule-ocarina-fingerings/
16:08:01	 From Eric Witt : Isn’t there already a breath control on Performer? So why would one need an outside breath control?
16:10:14	 From darrellsmith : jraoul: I agree
16:10:15	 From Glenn Workman : Eric: A breath controller is a physical device you can blow into to generate MIDI data.
16:10:47	 From Eric Witt : Glenn. I understand that. But what would the advantage be in relationship to what is already on performer?
16:11:04	 From Glenn Workman : Ones designed for Sax or Trumpet players take advantage of folks who already have dexterity on that instrument.
16:11:39	 From Glenn Workman : The big advantage would be on input, you can play expressively, not draw it in later.
16:11:54	 From Glenn Workman : https://patchmanmusic.com
16:11:55	 From jraoul : Not just the instrument, but the patch within the instrument
16:12:09	 From Ray Toler : Eric, it’s another way to get expression in, even on MIDI parts that already exist. Maybe to do a filter sweep, or tremolo, etc. The advantage is you can get some very fine control and you breathe differently than you might move your foot or hands, etc.
16:12:17	 From Eric Witt : Glenn - Oh that makes more sense. Thanks. So for virtual instruments it doesn’t really make a difference?
16:13:29	 From Eric Witt : Ray - Thanks. So from what I understand, even with virtual instruments it is possible to do more fine tuning.
16:13:32	 From Eric Witt : ?
16:13:56	 From James Paschall : Thanks, Glenn and everyone!  Love you!
16:14:04	 From John Flaherty : Yes!
16:14:11	 From John Flaherty : THANK YOU, GLENN!
16:14:14	 From Stephanie Gauthier : Thanks so much for everyone's help
16:14:14	 From jraoul : Thanks all for the useful help and the interesting chat!
16:14:30	 From Eric Witt : Thanyou Glenn and Ray.
16:15:58	 From Timmy Samuel : Cheers all!
16:16:33	 From Tom Lewis : Thanks Glenn, et al.
16:16:46	 From darrellsmith : Gotta go be well.