12:27:44 From Keith Lewis : I have an SE30 12:27:44 From Glenn : 512k Fat Mac was my first 12:27:45 From Björn Lindén : I still have my Mac+ 12:28:09 From Keith Lewis : Bought Apple II in 1982 12:28:19 From Wayne Pronzati : I still have my original Mac Powerbook with a whopping 2 MB of RAM 12:28:33 From Björn Lindén : Ray: use it for VEP7 12:28:50 From Benoit Widemann : Mac+ either, with HD 20MB, still working fine :) 12:28:52 From Robert Turner : Howdy from New Mexico, USA 12:29:40 From Björn Lindén : Ray: try the demo’s… 12:30:06 From Luis Angel : Hello!!! From Medellín, Colombia 🇨🇴!!! 12:30:12 From Ray Toler : Thanks, Björn! 12:32:21 From Terry Leigh Britton : Magic Bus 12:32:50 From James Paschall : Adam…if you’d be interested in blowing horns on a Beatles’ cover of Savoy Truffle, let me know please. thunderenlightning@hotmail.com 12:33:15 From Ray Toler : Russ (or anyone): you can reach me at rtoler@gmail.com 12:33:37 From Russ Pfeifer : Thanks Ray 12:34:27 From Benoit Widemann : Is there any advantage (latency) in reducing the number of busses? 12:34:35 From James Paschall : Cool Ray, Thanks. 12:34:44 From Terry Leigh Britton : The names of the busses have nothing to do with the address assignments DP assigns to them. 12:36:53 From Robert Turner : I won't be here tomorrow. Have 2 out of town gigs this weekend! 12:37:08 From Ray Toler : A “gig” ?? What’s that? 12:37:10 From Ray Toler : ;) 12:37:15 From Robert Turner : LoL 12:37:26 From Mark Kelso : ask a frog about a gig 12:37:33 From Adam Goldman : James Paschall….sound like fun. adam@audiomind.com 12:37:57 From Ray Toler : Having lived in College Station, TX for too many years, I don’t need to ask about frog gigging. =-D 12:38:18 From James Paschall : Cool Adam…I’ll send you my 2000 Cakewalk mix. 12:39:59 From Adam Goldman : Nice 12:40:11 From Adam Goldman : Mark Kelso…still in CR? Different background today. ;-) 12:40:26 From Andrew Culver : Radio Shack for decent hardware SPL meter 12:40:33 From John Flaherty : I missed it - where did he get the calibration window from? 12:40:42 From Adam Goldman : it’s a MOTU-included plugin 12:40:58 From Adam Goldman : currently in slot A of his Stereo track 12:41:31 From Björn Lindén : gig… that’s something from the olden days. Pre youtube I think…..isn’t it ? 12:41:39 From John Flaherty : Thanks. I’m trying to pull it up in may own DP window. 12:42:28 From Ray Toler : I suspect most folks have an audio meter, but if you need one, I use Decibel X on my iPhone and it’s pretty nice. Certainly accurate enough for my home studio. 12:43:00 From Mark Kelso : Decibel X works well 12:43:23 From Glenn : https://www.gearhungry.com/best-decibel-meters/ 12:43:48 From kennethpage : Thanks Glenn. 12:44:01 From Glenn : The pictures at the top, both far left and far right are about $20. I don’t think the Radio Shack one is available, at least its not on their website. 12:44:30 From Ray Toler : And for non-peak metering in DP, I use VUMT Deluxe from Klanghelm. Best VU I’ve come across, and cheap. 12:44:31 From Ray Toler : https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/VUMT/VUMT.php 12:45:38 From Adam Goldman : Glenn…I don’t know what you were just conducting, but I think Bugs Bunny was perhaps behind your very quick tempo. :-P 12:49:03 From Andrew Culver : Big fan of this meter. Does M/S, VU, PPM, and RMS. 12:49:05 From Andrew Culver : http://www.pspaudioware.com/plugins/tools_and_meters/psp_triplemeter/ 12:50:38 From James Paschall : -24dB 12:51:53 From Ray Toler : I think the European equivalent of the CALM act is ITU 1770-2 (or something like that) 12:52:49 From Neil McCarroll : GOT produced in Northern Ireland - of course we did it right! 12:53:03 From Glenn : Neil: :) 12:53:08 From James Paschall : lol 12:53:10 From Ray Toler : :) 12:53:15 From darrellsmith : Yeah Neil!!! 12:53:27 From darrellsmith : Beautiful country. 12:54:02 From John Roesli : How did you derive the audio tracks? 12:54:11 From raymoore : Where do we find this window under what? 12:54:32 From Glenn : John: He said he recorded them off HBO with the same setup. 12:54:40 From Ray Toler : Ray: This is the WLM plugin from Waves. 12:54:44 From Timmy Samuel : B99 is gold 12:54:45 From Glenn : raymoore: Its a Waves plug-in. 12:55:17 From raymoore : Do you need the whole package? 12:55:33 From Ray Toler : I think you can buy it standalone. 12:55:57 From Ray Toler : I use this and iZotope Insight while mixing, but normally do my final checks with an offline batch tool. 12:56:02 From James Paschall : WLM plus gives you a level adjustment. 12:58:02 From Adam Goldman : Kevin Hart…one of our Philly fave sons. :-) 12:58:18 From Björn Lindén : Insight is great… 12:59:08 From Neil McCarroll : does YouTube not Normalize things? 12:59:16 From Adam Goldman : Standards? Google? (owns YT). Hmmm. 12:59:52 From Benoit Widemann : what about ads level on TV? is the -24 standardized to leave some more room for louder ads? 12:59:55 From Ray Toler : Ha. I watched that exact Beato video yesterday. 13:00:17 From Russ Pfeifer : i did as well 13:00:34 From Ray Toler : Benoit, ITU 1770 and the CALM act were primarily to limit commercial volumes from what I’ve read. 13:00:38 From Adam Goldman : Benoit W: that’s a GREAT question. 13:00:38 From Russ Pfeifer : Few days ago 13:00:46 From Ken Thies : My understanding was that the ads have to follow it as well, so that the ads do not come up louder than the programming. That's the idea anyway.... ;-) 13:00:57 From Lainie Dixon : Youtube does have compression systems that affect what is uploaded. Aiming for -13 Luffs for youtube will avoid your audio getting banged by their compression system 13:01:01 From Ray Toler : In the US, there are pretty hefty fines if you crank up the commercial volume. 13:01:21 From Ray Toler : I’d assume the same in the EU 13:01:30 From Glenn : We should see the levels of the webinars posted on motu.com :) 13:01:39 From Benoit Widemann : haha :) 13:01:54 From Björn Lindén : Ask Matt :-) 13:01:57 From Neil McCarroll : Thanks Lainie 13:01:59 From Lainie Dixon : Its similar to what happens on Spotify and iTunes, a few minor differences 13:03:22 From ken landers : ATSC A/85 is based on the NBC/Universal standards that were already in place (which, as I understand, was much of the basis for the CALM act numbers). Also, youtube will normalize uploads to LUFS (or LKFS) of -14 dB. 13:03:23 From James Paschall : Production sound. 13:06:14 From Mark Kelso : Adam: Kevin Hart? Mickey’s half brother? 13:06:32 From Robert Turner : Greg Trippi's wheelhouse!! 13:06:37 From Adam Goldman : Mark: :-) PRETTTTTYYYY sure they’re not related. :-P 13:07:32 From Ray Toler : That’s wonderfully shot. Looks straight out of the 50s. 13:07:50 From Adam Goldman : Ray: 1959, maybe? 13:08:17 From Ray Toler : Adam, yeah… thinking around September. 13:08:26 From Kubilay Uner : Looks like it’s 2997 Drop 13:09:44 From Glenn : You can see a frame 27 right now on the film, and Matt is at 23.976, so yes frame rate mismatch. 13:10:39 From Ray Toler : Ok… I missed that this was a remaster. Thought it was a modern film that had nailed that old B/W look. I’m going to go get another cup of coffee. 13:10:49 From Kubilay Uner : The semicolons are usually used to indicate drop frame. And in the US that usually means 2997 DF 13:11:17 From James Paschall : Lol, Ray! 13:11:50 From Glenn : Kubilay: I always see that between second and frame (30 vs. 29.97). I’ve never seen semi-colons in the other locations before. 13:12:24 From Kubilay Uner : Yeah mostly done only in the last location, but my guess is they just wanted to be super clear… 13:12:31 From jraoul : Definitely not 1959 13:12:42 From John Flaherty : What did they change 911 to? 13:12:53 From Lainie Dixon : If you do end up wanting to faking a stereo track, Wider is my personal favourite plugin, gives you great control for just how wide it is. I use it to manage the stereo field in my music mixes 13:13:08 From Adam Goldman : 800.BE.TERRIFIED.NOW 13:13:17 From Ray Toler : John: it was changed to 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3 13:13:35 From John Flaherty : LOL 13:13:41 From Glenn : Of course 9-1-1 didn’t exist in 1959 as an emergency number. 13:14:30 From Terry Leigh Britton : You dialed "O" back then. 13:14:36 From Terry Leigh Britton : Never "M". 13:14:48 From Adam Goldman : Terry Leigh: :-) 13:14:49 From James Paschall : But did 999 exist in the UK in 1959? 13:15:05 From Ray Toler : Yeah, Terry. You only want to dial M for murder. 13:15:35 From Terry Leigh Britton : Seriously. 13:16:03 From Russ Pfeifer : I thought M was for mixer 13:16:10 From James Paschall : lol 13:16:13 From Ray Toler : Dial M for MOTU 13:16:13 From Adam Goldman : Russ: That’s SHIFT=M 13:16:22 From Dan Wool : It’s called an “M & E” 13:16:32 From Russ Pfeifer : :-) 13:16:52 From Andrew Culver : Matt’s LUFS for a 1 minute segment about 4 minutes ago: -25.89 LUFS 13:16:54 From Stephen Burch : Personally, I like “m&m’s” better. 13:16:56 From Andrew Culver : Not bad Matt 13:17:07 From Russ Pfeifer : Mmmm 13:17:17 From John Roesli : Apologies if already covered, but why is the timecode off between the movie and the sound? 13:17:26 From Dan Wool : It’s an important term for post… 13:17:30 From Steve Sklar : There’s a QT Pro now? 13:17:37 From Glenn : Mismatched rates for film and DP at the moment. 13:18:15 From James Paschall : The actor that played the inspector in “Dial M…” used to come into a wine bar I played at in Kensington, London in 1978. 13:18:48 From Dan Wool : That actor’s name : John Williams…. 13:19:06 From Dan Wool : ….not the composer of course 13:19:20 From James Paschall : Thanks, Dan. Forgetful in my years. 13:19:23 From Russ Pfeifer : Trivia Score! 13:19:47 From Dan Wool : You forgot John Williams?! :) 13:20:03 From Adam Goldman : Dan, he’s not your father. 13:20:17 From Adam Goldman : oh, wait, wrong John Williams. Sorry. 13:20:20 From Neil McCarroll : Dan: guess you had a Close Encounter 13:20:28 From Dan Wool : No. Morricone was my father 13:20:46 From jraoul : John Williams (the composer)’s father was Johnny Williams, percussionist for Raymond Scott’s Quintette, who did “Powerhouse”, famous in so many Looney Toons. SERIOUS stupid trivia. 13:20:55 From jaywoelfel : I was about to ask if anyone had sent out a thank you to Ennio for his time on earth 13:21:10 From Adam Goldman : jraoul: well played, Sir. 13:22:01 From Glenn : jay: he was remembered well in Tuesday’s webinar chat. 13:22:02 From John Roesli : You mean the Ah e Ah e Ah guy? According to WAPO 13:23:00 From James Paschall : Here’s the actor of the same name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams_(actor) 13:24:32 From Russ Pfeifer : Just watched that movie, I love how that theme is used 13:24:55 From Russ Pfeifer : Wa WAH wa 13:24:55 From Adam Goldman : wow, Russ. You must have been watching it all in fast forward. That was quick. 13:25:24 From Russ Pfeifer : Luke Speedwatcher 13:25:44 From jraoul : Funny — if you had that in your production audio you might think it was noise you’d want to filter out. 13:27:13 From John Roesli : Rumble is considered Non-diegetic? 13:28:47 From Neil McCarroll : Depends on the rumble source - if it’s semi-real you are getting into the realms of quasi-diegetic 13:29:03 From jraoul : What if it’s hemi-demi-semi-real? 13:29:16 From Neil McCarroll : or semi-realistic I mean 13:29:18 From Glenn : You mean a 128th noise? 13:30:17 From Russ Pfeifer : Que es diegetic? 13:30:30 From jraoul : Sound that the characters on-screen can hear 13:30:45 From Russ Pfeifer : gracias 13:30:58 From jaywoelfel : It’s source audio for those not in a film class 13:31:09 From Neil McCarroll : Actually ‘congruent’ or ‘incongruent’ would be the key differentiator 13:35:09 From jraoul : Glenn - could you ask Matt to leave the Tracks window up as we watch? 13:36:41 From Neil McCarroll : Nice sound-design Matt! 13:37:01 From Adam Goldman : now y’all wanna buy those Adidas, right? 13:37:04 From Glenn : jraoul: Couldn’t jump in, but luckily he had it opinion the side. 13:37:15 From jraoul : Adam - no, but I wanna buy the CGI suite 13:37:20 From jraoul : Tx Glenn 13:37:32 From Adam Goldman : jraoul: good call. :-) 13:40:06 From Ray Toler : I wanted to go back and create 5.1 mixes of my albums. Started researching how to set up my studio to do surround monitoring and quickly realized I needed to just slowly back out of the room and forget about that idea. 13:41:57 From Russ Pfeifer : Seems like very deep water 13:42:15 From jraoul : LFE = sub-woofer? 13:42:25 From Ray Toler : That was definitely my impression, Russ. 13:45:57 From Ray Toler : jraoul - yes 13:46:02 From Dan Wool : I heard it before! 13:48:00 From jraoul : Lost our lives? AHHHHHH! 13:48:18 From Adam Goldman : but it’s a video game. you live and go to the next level 13:50:03 From Russ Pfeifer : infinite level game 13:50:04 From John Boyle : Paging MOTU Guru for track pad patch……. 13:50:39 From Adam Goldman : Paging GlennSei. He’ll have a Console for that. ;-) 13:52:19 From Ken Thies : Back in college, way before 5.1, the electronic composition lab had 8 speakers positioned equidistantly around a circle. We had to do speaker-to-speaker pans/trades/whatever manually at the mix console. (A Logex 8-bus if I recall correctly). 13:53:58 From darrellsmith : Can’t really hear the choir track. 13:54:03 From James Paschall : Interesting, Ken. 13:54:40 From Ken Thies : James: it's sooooo much better to accomplish the target with the toys MOTU has in the box nowadays. 13:54:46 From Stephen Burch : Thanks Matt. Gotta go. 13:55:00 From Terry Leigh Britton : That was excellent. 13:55:32 From James Paschall : I’ll take you word for it, Ken. 13:55:36 From Scott Dorton : Gotta bail. Thanks Matt, Glenn and everyone. 13:55:39 From James Paschall : your* 13:56:03 From Ray Toler : When I was in high school, I inherited an old quadraphonic receiver/amp. The balance control was a joystick. I had no end of fun lying in the middle of the soundfield listening to Pink Floyd and moving the sound around. 13:56:45 From Adam Goldman : using a Dangerous Music monitor control…it’s great. Can work with 5.1, if you have the right combo of parts 13:56:46 From Glenn : I have a class to teach at 2PM. Hope to see everyone who can for a bit tomorrow as well. Take care. 13:56:54 From Russ Pfeifer : Sweeet 13:56:55 From Robert Turner : Very Cool Capabilities!! Thanks, Matt! Gotta load some equipment in the trailer for tomorrow's gig. See ya'll Tues - Have a Great Weekend and try to stay cool!! Bye. 13:56:56 From Adam Goldman : thanks, Glenn! 13:57:10 From James Paschall : Harmon Kardon had that joy stick in their Quad Receiver. 13:57:27 From Dan Wool : Drawmer MC7.1 is perfecto 13:57:32 From Kubilay Uner : We have the SPL in the college that does full 5.1 monitor control. Costs around $900 or so 13:57:50 From James Paschall : Thanks, Glenn! Have a great class! 13:58:45 From James Paschall : Have a great gig, Robert. Mask it or Casket! 13:59:02 From Ray Toler : Bradley, when I was exploring moving into surround mixing, I was planning on using a Behringer ADA8200 out of my AVB stuff via lightpipe to drive the monitors. 13:59:13 From Ray Toler : Backed off when I saw the price of things like the Drawmer controller. 14:00:00 From Andrew Culver : SPL Audio has a full range go multichannel monitor controllers. 5.1, 7.1, 8 even 16 channels. I have their 2Control for my stereo setup and it is excellent. Phones too. 14:01:09 From Bradley DePasse : Ray, I initially ran into the same thing. And unless I was going to get enough work doing it it just creating a wiring nightmare to even play with.