12:29:34 From Jonathan Scales : Hello everyone! Today is my Birthday! Yea! 12:29:42 From jraoul : Happy birthday, Jonathan 12:30:00 From David Stowell : Happy Birthday Jonathan! Did you bring cake? 12:30:31 From John Boyle : Happy Birthday! Mine’s tomorrow. 12:30:51 From Rigo Mora : Hi Everybody, from Mexico 12:31:11 From jraoul : Let’s all sing “Happy Birthday To You” at the end of the meeting today — latency chaos! 12:31:28 From DAVe : what is up with the low bandwidth screens? everyone else seeing that? 12:31:29 From Benoit Widemann : Matt your uplink bandwidth seems very low today 12:31:37 From Andrew Culver : Happy Birthday Jonathan 12:31:42 From charleswhite : If anyone wants my 896HD, I’m selling it. (Upgraded to 8pre-es.) 12:32:02 From Kerwin Young : Good morning everyone! 12:32:09 From charleswhite : 8 mic pres. 12:32:09 From Donald Sosin : Happy Birthday! 12:32:10 From Garry Norman : Good morning from Reno 12:32:14 From Ken Thies : G'day! 12:32:19 From Jonathan Scales : Hi John Boyle! Happy Pre-Birthday to you too! 12:32:24 From Ray T. : Rainy in the Pacific Northwest. 12:32:38 From Stephanie : Good afternoon from Canada! 12:32:46 From Bjorn Linden : Any news of support for smtp-av in the later macOS ? 12:33:17 From Bjorn Linden : **mtp-av 12:33:40 From Glenn Workman : Bjorn: I’m using my MTP AV with the current release of Catalina with no problems. 12:33:45 From Jonathan Scales : Thank you jraoul, Donald Sosin and Andrew Culver! 12:34:01 From Bjorn Linden : Ok ? I mean. Great :-) 12:34:12 From Ray T. : Before we get rolling, I’m looking for DP users with the Spitfire BBCSO library who would be willing to kick the tires on my translation of the template they released. If you’re interested, please send email to bbcsotemplate@raytoler.com 12:34:32 From Benoit Turgeon : same here 12:34:35 From jraoul : His sound sounds fine to me, but his video’s jerky 12:34:41 From Glenn Workman : I also have 8 of them running on Mojave systems in a lab. 12:34:46 From Ray T. : I only get the odd audio when people are talking over each other. 12:34:55 From Jonathan Scales : Matt’s video is fuzzy, but his audio is good! 12:34:58 From Bjorn Linden : Mats sound is ok here… 12:35:28 From Ray T. : @Bjorn, I have 4 MTP-AVs running on High Sierra with no issues. 12:35:49 From Benoit Turgeon : still slow in canada 12:36:08 From Bjorn Linden : OK, great. I have only 2, but need another soon. 12:36:19 From Jonathan Scales : In Chicago here, your video is not good, but your audio is on point! 12:36:57 From Ray T. : QUIT DOING BUSINESS, WORLD - I’M TRYING TO LEARN!!! 12:37:12 From Adam Goldman : exactly, Ray T. 12:37:13 From Paul Colombo : Adam Goldman - I’m outside Philly. Any way we can communicate? 12:37:20 From jraoul : Glenn’s video looks fine 12:37:24 From Adam Goldman : adam@audiomind.com 12:37:36 From Thomas Davis : Looks ok here! 12:37:37 From Ray T. : Looks and sounds good now. 12:37:37 From David Davis : Would it help if we turned off our Video feeds also? 12:37:50 From Adam Goldman : what constitutes ‘outside Philly’…I think that probably applies to most of the folks on this webinar. :-) 12:37:52 From Ken Thies : Matt's audio is fine here, video is a bit lagging, but screen looks about normal from my POV. 12:38:27 From Paul Colombo : I live in Chester County 12:38:39 From Adam Goldman : aha. I’m in West Philly. 12:38:58 From Adam Goldman : (aka, The Best Philly. :-P) 12:39:00 From Glenn Workman : Adam: I play the Ardmore occasionally. Is that near you? 12:39:01 From Paul Colombo : I grew up 1 mile from West Philly 12:39:22 From Paul Colombo : I’ve been looking for a “local” guy to communicate about DP 12:39:32 From Adam Goldman : Glenn: about 20m by car from my house. 12:39:52 From Glenn Workman : Paul/Adam: We can commiserate about DP anytime. glenn@freqsound.com 12:39:53 From Paul Colombo : Yes Glenn. Crack The Sky!!! fantastic. 12:39:53 From Thomas Davis : IS this better than Bidule and rewire? 12:40:59 From Dan Levine : For clarity…you have to open the FREE STANDING version first? 12:41:04 From Adam Goldman : Glenn…sent you, Jim C, and Matt an email last week about DP with Avid Artist Series surface….did you get it? 12:41:08 From jraoul : Is VEP so CPU intensive that you need a separate computer to run it, or can you put it on the same computer? 12:41:12 From Glenn Workman : Paul: Every Crack The Sky album since 1998 done with DP. 12:41:34 From XNE0EDzQEHm8GRxQaLxinmGjSWFg3sTfrEZ5Uy7WYuo= : Vienna is free or paid? 12:41:42 From Reed Robins : paid 12:41:49 From Glenn Workman : Adam: Yes, but I have no experience with that device. And I’ve been a Digidesign/Avid dealer since 1985. 12:41:56 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Paid. 12:42:00 From Reed Robins : VEP can run on the main computer jraoul. 12:42:14 From XNE0EDzQEHm8GRxQaLxinmGjSWFg3sTfrEZ5Uy7WYuo= : ok thanks Glen and Reed. 12:42:24 From Paul Colombo : Glenn. Nice! I was a big fan in the “old days”. Sorry, haven’t kept up much lately other than I know you’ve been bak. 12:42:26 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Your name is XN… again. 12:42:31 From Benoit Turgeon : Am I the only one without screen sharing 12:42:33 From XNE0EDzQEHm8GRxQaLxinmGjSWFg3sTfrEZ5Uy7WYuo= : Damn! 12:42:35 From Adam Goldman : Glenn: glad you got it; hoping maybe Jim or Matt has some insight 12:42:36 From Reed Robins : It actually lightens the load on DP when run on the host, at least in my experience. 12:42:42 From Dan Levine : I have Vienna Symphonic Library. Is that the same product? Does that mean I have more patches available? 12:42:49 From Kenneth Sarkey : Command “tab” is so quick and useful to switch mac applications from any window 12:43:22 From Glenn Workman : Kenneth: Also command-tilde to switch between windows within a single application. 12:43:42 From Eric Witt : Glenn, fixed, thanks. 12:44:07 From Terry Leigh Britton : @Dan Levine The Vienna Ensemble Pro Server is a separate product from the Symphonic Library. 12:44:17 From Dan Levine : I see. TY 12:44:36 From Kenneth Sarkey : Thnx Glenn; forgot about the cmnd tilde one! 12:44:38 From Glenn Workman : Benoit: I think Matt has to enable that if you want to share your screen. Matt’s screen IS being shared here. 12:44:38 From Eric Chapelle : Latest version is Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 12:44:50 From jraoul : So in this example VEP is the server, Kontakt is the sound library? 12:45:17 From Terry Leigh Britton : VEP 7 comes with a gigantic library of instruments - very nice addition. 12:45:29 From Ray T. : If I use a satellite computer for VEP, does the audio get routed back through the network, or do I need some other way of bringing audio back to DP? 12:45:42 From Terry Leigh Britton : Through the network. 12:45:55 From Eric Chapelle : Yes it is! VEP Pro 7k is awesome! 12:46:00 From Ray T. : ty, Terry 12:46:17 From Glenn Workman : All: I don’t use VEP. What’s the ballpark price? 12:46:25 From Glenn Workman : Mostly real players in my world. 12:46:29 From Thomas Davis : https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Vienna_Ensemble_Pro 12:46:37 From Tom Foley : If you’re still having issues with video or audio, there may be an update to your Zoom. I just did it and now I’m fine. 12:46:44 From jraoul : I see $230 on Sweetwater 12:47:04 From Glenn Workman : Thomas/Tom: Thanks. 12:47:05 From Reed Robins : Steven Steele has GREAT YouTube videos on DP and VEP, BTW. 12:47:24 From Terry Leigh Britton : You do need to budget in the cost of the Steinberg dongles for each hosting computer, too. 12:47:30 From Glenn Workman : Tom: There was a Zoom update today 5.02 I believe 12:47:39 From Thomas Davis : I use Bidule and rewire What is the difference with VEP? 12:47:44 From Glenn Workman : Version: 5.0.2 (24030.0508) 12:48:02 From Glenn Workman : I updated right before the webinar today. 12:48:19 From Dan Levine : New to KONTACT. Every time I select a new instrument in MULTI, it replaces the first one that is on MIDI CH 1. How would I select a second instrument that would play on CH 2 without it replacing the first one in the multi rack? 12:48:22 From Terry Leigh Britton : VEP sends MIDI and audio all through the network. 12:48:34 From Glenn Workman : Terry: They use a dongle different than an iLok? I HATE dongles :) 12:48:56 From Terry Leigh Britton : They use eLicenser from Steinberg. 12:49:10 From Glenn Workman : Dan: Highlight the field “empty 2” before you load a sound. Or double click that field then select. 12:49:19 From Glenn Workman : You can also drag from the library to those slots. 12:49:27 From Eric Witt : How much of a better quality is the Vienna Ensemble in comparison with the MOTU VIs? 12:49:46 From Dan Levine : When I drag, it erases the first one on there 12:50:06 From Glenn Workman : Dan: Into any slot that says Empty X? 12:50:19 From Darrell Smith : Would it be advantageous to put effect sends/inserts in VEPro? 12:50:19 From Ray T. : @Dan, double click an NKI and it should load on another channel. If you drag/drop over an existing one, it will try to replace it. 12:50:21 From Terry Leigh Britton : @Eric Witt - not sure what you mean. VEP is an instrument host. 12:50:31 From Bjorn Linden : @Eric a few Tb of samples to begin with 12:50:35 From Dan Levine : No. In the blank space under the first multi loaded on the largest area to the LEFT of the instrument list 12:51:06 From Eric Witt : Terry - I meant the virtual instruments in Performer he is covering now in comparison with Vienna virtual instruments 12:51:08 From Bryan : Is Matt not sharing his screen? Or is everyone seeing it fine and I’m just doing something wrong on my end? 12:51:18 From Glenn Workman : Dan: We can try to do a zoom after the webinar to suss it out if you like. 12:51:29 From Glenn Workman : Bryan: He is sharing his screen. 12:51:33 From Terry Leigh Britton : @Bryan - pin Matt's window 12:51:34 From Ray T. : @Bryan, I see it. Make sure you don’t have full-screen enabled. 12:51:43 From Bryan : Okay, thanks everyone 12:51:51 From Ray T. : If you’re in full-screen but have alt-tabbed to something else, the full screen disappears. 12:52:25 From Dan Levine : That would be fantastic…however, I have to leave by 2:45 12:52:27 From Bryan : Got, thank you Ray, you were right. 12:52:30 From Terry Leigh Britton : @Erik Witt - VEP only hosts plugins and instruments. 12:52:42 From Terry Leigh Britton : Sounds the same - digital audio. 12:52:47 From Glenn Workman : Dan: Can be some other time, just email first glenn@freqsound.com 12:53:33 From Bjorn Linden : @eric, check out the homepage. link is a bit up in the chat. 12:53:48 From Eric Witt : ok thanks Terry. 12:54:42 From Jim Kremens : Samples are kind of wicked loud? Much louder than the dude. 12:55:01 From Jim Kremens : (Matt) 12:55:03 From The Morning Lounge with Jill and Rich : are they automatically set to ONE SHOT? 12:55:18 From Benoit Widemann : Stretch? 12:55:25 From Dan Levine : That is soooo appreciated, Glenn! If we run out of time I will set it up possibly for 4:30 PM EDT. 12:55:30 From Dan Levine : If that works for you 12:55:58 From Edward Auslender : Why only 12 notes on Model 12? 12:55:59 From Glenn Workman : Morning Lounge: This instrument is a one-shot sample player. 12:56:14 From The Morning Lounge with Jill and Rich : thanks 12:56:32 From Glenn Workman : Mostly designed for drums but could be loops or sound effects as well. Cart player for radio :) 12:56:42 From Edward Auslender : ok 12:56:49 From jraoul : Edward - 12 instruments, each with a pitch range 12:57:06 From Terry Leigh Britton : @Glenn Workman - definitely Model 12 works great as a Cart Player for radio! 12:57:26 From jraoul : Terry - great tip! Tx 12:57:40 From Glenn Workman : Edward/jraoul: Yes, whichever button is highlighted in the bottom panel, then all the knobs in the body affect just the one sample. 12:58:28 From Edward Auslender : cool 12:58:48 From Ray T. : Is there any way to collapse the massive waste of space above plugin windows in DP? If not, I’ll send it in as a suggestion. 12:58:55 From Ken Thies : I still have my 106! 12:59:00 From Terry Leigh Britton : @jraoul You could run it in Performer Lite for radio use to save on resources. 12:59:09 From Roger Neill : me too! use it alot 12:59:42 From Glenn Workman : Ray: Some plug-ins used to have a collapse/or smaller view, but many do not these days. 12:59:42 From Adam Goldman : bagpipes 13:00:00 From Adam Goldman : (drones) 13:00:21 From Jeff Ojeda : It's the soundtrack basis for Hilghlander. lol 13:00:37 From Gary Price : how do I get the recoded session from last friday ? 13:00:39 From Ray T. : Thanks @Glenn. Wish they’d come back. I lose so much screen real estate to that. Wish I could collapse everything between the window title bar and the start of the plugin itself. 13:00:44 From Adam Goldman : but there can be only one, Jeff Ojeda 13:01:04 From Dan Levine : Thanks Ray T 13:01:07 From Jeff Ojeda : so true Adam. so true! 13:01:09 From Jeff Ojeda : lol 13:01:39 From Glenn Workman : Ray: Agreed. For me some things like the stomp boxes particularly would be very small and still show their 2 or 3 controls. 13:02:25 From Glenn Workman : I want a pedal board from some of those stomp boxes :) 13:02:52 From Ray T. : For me it’s Klanghelm VUMT. I’d love to have a line of them at 75% across the top of my mixer, but the menu area is almost as big as the VU meter itself! :D 13:04:14 From Caxa : VUMT is superb - use it all the time. 13:04:48 From David Davis : If to loud, then its DeaFM 13:04:55 From Bjorn Linden : Feature request for Proton. Different waveforms (other than sinus). 13:05:04 From Glenn Workman : David : ) 13:05:29 From Ray T. : The audio glitching for me seems to be related to mouse clicking. Not every time, but a lot of the time he’s click-dragging something is when I get the stutters/noise. 13:05:42 From James Paschall : Love to play the Terminator theme with Tears. 13:05:45 From Glenn Workman : Bjorn: There is some of that in MX4. Original FM synth stuff like the Yamaha DX series was all sine waves. 13:07:05 From Bjorn Linden : Yes. Got TX816 sitting right by me. And a synclavier in the next room… :-) 13:08:02 From Eric Chapelle : Oh a synclavier! I played on one in the late 70’s! 13:08:09 From Glenn Workman : I’ve always pronounced it with a hard d and accent on the u. Like Medulla oblongata. 13:08:31 From Bjorn Linden : Still got it. :-) 13:09:12 From Glenn Workman : Bjorn: Very cool. Only had one session on a Synclavier and mostly I spent the time figuring it out for the owner in NYC. 13:09:29 From Eric Chapelle : to Bjorn: Awesome! I’m sure it still delivers on creating great sounds! 13:09:46 From Paul Colombo : They had a Synclavier in Miami when I was there in the 80’s. 13:10:02 From Terry Leigh Britton : Arturia's Synclavier is very serviceable and the original designer helped create it. 13:10:36 From Bjorn Linden : It’s only a “small” system. it even weighs less than a metric tonne 13:10:52 From Glenn Workman : Bjorn: And cheap too! 13:11:08 From Bjorn Linden : Yes, talked to Cameron. 13:11:20 From Bjorn Linden : keeps to house warm. 13:11:43 From Bjorn Linden : **keeps the house warm :-) 13:12:21 From Aryeh Har-Even : I had a lot of fun using a Farilight back in the 80s. Still of some recordings of the sessions. Never spent time with a Synclavier. 13:12:31 From kristinwilkinson : What was that arpeggiator he was just using? 13:12:41 From Adam Goldman : pattern gate 13:12:41 From Reed Robins : Pattern gate 13:12:48 From Terry Leigh Britton : That was a pattern generator - a sequenced gate. 13:12:57 From Glenn Workman : kristin: Pattern Gate. Its a factory plug-in included with DP. 13:13:10 From Eric Witt : What are AIFF files? 13:13:15 From kristinwilkinson : Thanks! 13:13:29 From Bjorn Linden : like .wav 13:13:33 From Bjorn Linden : old format. 13:13:36 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Uncompressed linear PCM audio, just like the current WAV format. 13:13:47 From Eric Witt : ok thanks Glenn 13:14:41 From Luke Steward : spooky, and shiny! 13:15:03 From Glenn Workman : Archane info: WAV was originally on 8 bit, 11khz, and mono, while AIFF supported more of everything. The original Macs in 1984 could play stereo 44.1khz 16 bit AIFF, which was the native audio format for Apple. 13:15:05 From Jay Woelfel : So on this nano, you open it, then you can drag/drop aiff sounds into it's center window to then manipulate? 13:15:11 From Glenn Workman : Audio Interchange File Format 13:15:20 From Glenn Workman : Jay: Yes 13:15:20 From Caxa : If I “create instrument track with options” and select a multi output VI - say Omnisphere - is there a way of selecting number of (consecutive) outputs the same way you can do with MIDI? 13:15:29 From Simon Foster : I notice that the factory presets are .wav though…? 13:16:09 From Eric Chapelle : Pretty cool sound alteration with Nano Sampler! 13:16:15 From Ray T. : @Caxa - you can save an Omnisphere setup that’s pre-routed for A-H. I use the Assign command in DP to consecutively apply the correct inputs to the audio tracks. 13:16:20 From Glenn Workman : Simon: WAV has become the industry standard at this point, though there is no difference in quality. BWF (Broadcast Wave Format) includes more meta data in the file. 13:16:56 From Ray T. : But the *easiest* way is to get it set up the way you want it, then save that set of tracks as a clipping. 13:16:59 From Eric Witt : How can you drag the sound in? 13:17:19 From Glenn Workman : Eric: From the desktop on a Mac, simply drag the icon. 13:17:19 From Adam Goldman : Eric: drag and drop it into the graphic area in the center (blue) 13:17:23 From Aryeh Har-Even : Nano sampler very cool. 13:17:31 From Caxa : @Ray ok thanks, I’ll need to check that out, although I was thinking more of clippings. 13:17:39 From Glenn Workman : You can see his Riser and Hit samples in the left margin which are sitting on his desktop. 13:17:47 From Chris Duval : Love MX4! 13:19:01 From Ray T. : @Caxa, I have a clipping setup that brings in one instance of Omnisphere, pre-routed to send outputs to A-H, eight midi tracks pre-assigned to each slot in omnisphere, and eight audio tracks with the A-H outputs set as inputs. 13:19:09 From Glenn Workman : I had the good fortune of being a beta tester for the MX4 and used it for soundtracks for about a year before it released as a stand alone plug-in. Now its of course included free in DP. 13:19:46 From Eric Witt : Thanks Adam. But how do I find the sound? 13:19:55 From Ray T. : MX4 is one of my favorites. I’ve done entire tracks that used a single patch from MX4. Really nice for evolving stuff. 13:19:55 From Dan Levine : OMG! John Keltonic!!!! Fancy meeting you here!!! 13:20:20 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Any sound you can see in a Finder window. 13:20:30 From Eric Witt : ok thanks. 13:20:36 From Adam Goldman : Eric:can come from any sound file you have. Matt’s is still highlighted on his desktop to the right of MX4 (“Riser, Stinger, Short.aiff”) 13:20:54 From Eric Witt : Thanks Glenn and Adam. 13:20:59 From Caxa : @Ray yup, that is what I was planning. I just thought I would ask as Logic, for example, does it automatically. 13:21:52 From Benoit Widemann : Why is it called “modulation source” while it is definitely the destination? 13:22:08 From Steve Sklar : Rather than moving audio files, can you create aliases for them, group them however, and select them, drag and drop, etc.,? 13:22:37 From Glenn Workman : Benoit: The LFO is modulating the destination. 13:22:54 From Benoit Widemann : understood 13:23:01 From Benoit Widemann : But the menu is disconcerting 13:23:27 From Glenn Workman : Steve: Yes, an alias should work. When you Save Preset you have the choice of copying the samples into the project as well. 13:23:29 From Ray T. : Too much feedback? Heresy!! 13:23:54 From Caxa : @Ray yes ! You beat me to it! 13:24:02 From Steve Sklar : Glenn, thanks. 13:24:05 From Luke Steward : my ears were scared, i took off my headphones when i heard the wave of echoy feedback chaos coming to attack me 13:24:13 From Dan Levine : Hey Glenn. If I minimize the Instrument headers, then I AM able to drag a new instrument to the space and it defaults to the next midi channel. 13:24:24 From P Buchta : Can you run the feedback on a separate audio channel alone. 13:24:37 From Dan Levine : Quickload I can’t seem to figure out yet. Searching for that as well 13:25:06 From Glenn Workman : P Buchta: I’m not sure, but I don’t think the MX4 has multiple outputs. 13:25:21 From Steve Sklar : Does MX4 have evolve/mutate functions? 13:26:41 From P Buchta : Ok. Thanks. 13:27:04 From Dan Levine : Found quick load info. 13:27:25 From Craig Hlady : how do you get to that bottom row in the main ? 13:27:55 From Adam Goldman : there was a small triangle on the lower right side 13:28:59 From Craig Hlady : ok thanks i see it now 13:29:41 From Jim Kremens : Matt, can you review how you set the audio input in MX4? 13:29:54 From Jim Kremens : Never mind - I see it now 13:30:32 From Glenn Workman : Ray: MX4 is one of those that you collapse the panel. The triangle in the right corner below the Auto button collapses all the controls out of the way. 13:30:40 From Luke Steward : ok thats kinda cool 13:31:28 From Robert Camacho : This is really sweet 13:31:32 From Ray T. : Yep, thanks, Glenn! What I’m looking for is to be able to collapse the space where the auto button is. 13:31:36 From Eric Brown : WOW! This is built for Sci-Fi soundtracking! 13:31:38 From Glenn Workman : Jim: Its not an audio input, but a MIDI routing. MIDI track in record with MX4 as the Output. MX4 instrument is then its own audio track and is routed wherever you want. 13:32:04 From Aryeh Har-Even : Is there an iPad app, with the same screen, where one can control the synth e.g. the MX4 13:32:24 From Dan Levine : TO JOHN KELTONIC: Send me an email with your contact info please. I’m at dal@suchavoice.com 13:32:25 From Glenn Workman : Ray: There are other places with unneeded space for me as well, even the Tracks Overview. 13:32:27 From Eric Witt : Not a question but moreso a request, if it is possible for Matt to keep showing how he makes the instruments go through buses that would be great. 13:32:35 From Ray T. : Glenn: agreed. 13:33:24 From Ben Kreader : MX4 hasn’t been upgraded in a few years, is there one on the horizon? I have missed being able to use it in ProTools, etc. 13:33:34 From Glenn Workman : Eric: When creating Instrument with Options, it will automatically patch a MIDI track patched to the Instrument, and create an Instrument track routed to your main output. 13:33:39 From Adam Goldman : Eric: if you see the Tracks window, and the Choir track, you can see it’s output is set to Bus 19-20, and then Matt’s setting MX4’s input to 19-20 13:33:56 From Eric Witt : ok thanks Adam. 13:34:02 From Colorado Walkers : Glenn: I missed where you set the buss in MX4 13:34:58 From Glenn Workman : Colorado: I believe that was routed in the Mixing board like a send, but I can’t see that screen and have been typing over here for much of the webinar so didn’t see exactly where he did that. 13:35:06 From Ray T. : @Colorado, if you’re talking about to be able to pass audio through, it’s a small “display” looking menu just to the right of the input level knob. 13:35:45 From Aryeh Har-Even : Anyone know if these instruments controllable via an iPad? With duplicates of the screenshots in DP. 13:36:02 From Ray T. : I don’t believe they are, Aryeh. 13:36:15 From Colorado Walkers : Ray T: Thanks! Got it! 13:36:45 From Dan : Whatever happened to Unisyn? 13:36:53 From Glenn Workman : Dan: RIP 13:37:04 From Adam Goldman : along with Composer 13:37:04 From Caxa : Ha! +1 for Unisyn 13:37:04 From Glenn Workman : I actually programmed one of the modules. 13:37:05 From P Buchta : Choir to bus 19-20 to MX4-1 in keyboard used to trigger MX4 osc and filters to the Main out LR 13:37:11 From Ray T. : @Dan it got depressed and went to live alone in a corner of my closet. 13:37:23 From Caxa : Please bring Unisyn back… 13:37:24 From jraoul : +1 Unisyn, Mosaic, Pro Composer, ... 13:37:28 From P Buchta : Unisys rip. 13:37:31 From jraoul : loops 13:37:35 From Adam Goldman : oh, yeah…Mosaic, that’s what I meant 13:37:43 From Aryeh Har-Even : Yeah, whatever happened to Composer? And then Composer’s Mosaic. Man, I had a lot of work finally moving over to Finale. 13:37:50 From Dan : I left it on my Power Mac OS9 13:37:53 From Glenn Workman : Re: Unisyn: So many instruments, so little time to keep everything updated with every software revision, firmware updates etc. 13:38:02 From Aryeh Har-Even : Guess not profitable enough space. 13:38:12 From P Buchta : Flutes is a little flat 13:38:25 From Tim P : I’d love an update to the DP control app 13:38:48 From Glenn Workman : P: The rest of the planet loves non equal tempered or tuned instruments :) 13:39:12 From Glenn Workman : Tim P: Its been a repeated request. Hopefully that will happen sooner than later. 13:39:29 From Tim P : Cool. 13:39:56 From Aryeh Har-Even : Non equal tempered is def more earthy. Bach wouldn’t care LOL 13:40:51 From Craig Hlady : this looks pretty similar to UVI world traditions 13:41:29 From mindjobmusic : yiou would use this instead of UVI falcon 13:42:43 From Craig Hlady : yes I have falcon and looks like the same presets in world suite 13:43:12 From Glenn Workman : Kurzweil K series keyboard/racks let you do these kind of alter tunings as well. 13:43:30 From Aryeh Har-Even : I believe Pianoteq does too 13:43:33 From John Boyle : Anybody know if there are any Harry Partch instrument samples and tunings out there? 13:43:38 From Adam Goldman : Komplete Kontrol from NI does too 13:43:45 From Ray T. : K2600 has been my master controller since the 90s. I have to fix the squeaky keys soon, though. 13:44:01 From Glenn Workman : John: Yes, I’ll see if I can dig something up. 43 note scale etc. 13:44:02 From mindjobmusic : what about machfive? 13:44:08 From jraoul : Is there keyboard mapping in Ethno? 13:44:33 From Caxa : People often forget that you have different tuning cales in Omnisphere 13:44:35 From John Boyle : Thanks Glenn, would be so cool. 13:44:50 From jraoul : Harry would be appalled… but I wouldn't 13:44:57 From Glenn Workman : Ray: I was Kurzweil’s only tester for the K2000 and still have that. I use a K2600 live for ALL my sounds to this day, and there is one over my shoulder in my video feed. 13:45:30 From Ray T. : @Glenn, I know a lot of people didn’t like it (hence the change to black), but I love the purple. 13:46:13 From Glenn Workman : Both my K2600s are purple. Love it, in fact the still picture of my audio feed here has my K2600 above my MIDIBoard. 13:47:11 From Aryeh Har-Even : I remember seeing Ray Kurzweil give THE demo of his keyboard back in, mid ‘80s. It was in Toronto, in the Horseshoe Tavern across the streen from Steve’s Music. we were all blown away. 13:47:16 From Ray T. : @Glenn: Fun fact - immediately after purchasing my K2600, I went to the hardware store and bought a hand-truck with some web strapping so I could get it up the stairs to my 3rd floor apartment. 13:47:42 From Ray T. : (Because I bought the XS model) 13:47:54 From Eric Witt : Why put loops or instruments in digital audio? 13:47:57 From Steve Sklar : Where did he grab from? 13:48:21 From Glenn Workman : Aryeh: I went home after the first demo of the K250 and couldn’t sleep for 2 weeks. I lied to 3 different banks to get enough money to buy it. 13:48:47 From Aryeh Har-Even : Glenn: LOL you weren’t alone 13:49:10 From Ray T. : I didn’t lie to any banks, but I lied to myself a lot about whether or not I could afford it. :-D 13:49:14 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Folks seem to love them. I’m still much more of a linear and non-repetitive music lover. Just taste. 13:49:18 From Aryeh Har-Even : funny 13:50:13 From John Boyle : I am assuming that, for many of us, the statute of limitations has expired….. 13:50:21 From Ray T. : Guessing with all the new UVI branding that MX-5 is not long for this world. 13:50:50 From mindjobmusic : yes, the new UVI banks don't work with machfive 13:51:02 From Eric Witt : OK thanks Glenn. 13:51:12 From Eric Witt : I am also more of a linear person. 13:51:12 From Glenn Workman : Ray: Not sure what MOTU’s plans are. The additional controls in M5 are so very cool, that just using the UFS files in Workstation seems like a step backwards to me. 13:51:18 From Aryeh Har-Even : Does the UVI work yet with Catalina? 13:51:33 From mindjobmusic : yes 13:51:39 From Glenn Workman : Aryeh: I’m using it on Catalina on a new Mac Pro. 13:51:49 From Ray T. : @Glenn - agreed. Another one of those things where it’s so much better than alternatives, but just didn’t get the push/traction. 13:51:50 From Aryeh Har-Even : cool 13:52:02 From Benoit Turgeon : Can I import the dads from mackfive 2 in this? 13:52:09 From Eric Brown : I have UVI Workstation and Mach Five 3.5. What’s the difference between them or is there any? 13:52:22 From Jeff Ojeda : can these be mapped to the "Clips" section to use as part of that (Clips) music creation? 13:52:34 From Benoit Turgeon : i meant dvds 13:52:36 From Eric Witt : What is the interest of having channels on the workstation? Why is it better than assigning the instruments the traditional way? 13:52:37 From Glenn Workman : Eric Brown: M5 has a ton of extra controls rather than just playing the audio samples. 13:52:38 From Ray T. : lol. Just realized I typed MX-5 instead of Mach 5. 13:52:46 From Ray T. : Thanks for knowing what I meant, Glenn. 13:53:26 From Glenn Workman : Benoit: I HAVE done that with my M5 2 discs, so yes. I still like some of those over other sounds, things I’m just fond/familiar with. 13:53:54 From Dan Levine : Hey Glenn. I think I’m all set and don’t need a zoom session, but I made not of your email info for further reference. Thank you! 13:54:02 From Benoit Turgeon : Thanks Glenn 13:54:05 From Glenn Workman : Jeff: MIDI Clips can be playing these virtual instruments, so Yes to your questions. 13:54:06 From Dan Levine : note.. 13:54:21 From Jeff Ojeda : Cool. Thanks Glenn 13:54:47 From Glenn Workman : Dan: Cool you got it worked out. Happy to help anyone as time allows. This community is just a whole bunch of great people it seems. 13:55:21 From Jeff Ojeda : Yup. Sure seems that way. we ought to get together aside form the MOTU events. 13:55:22 From Craig Hlady : I don’t see the motu instruments in my UVI banks ? 13:55:25 From Dan Levine : Yes! Was trying to get John Keltonic’s attention here. Know him well. I don’t think he noticed. 13:55:29 From Andrew Culver : Can you had your own samples into UVI Workstation? 13:56:17 From Glenn Workman : Craig: The .ufs files for MOTU Instruments have to be installed in a specific location. They are downloaded separately from DP. 13:56:35 From kristinwilkinson : How do you get to the UVI Workstation? 13:56:46 From James Paschall : Thank you, Matt. 13:56:47 From Glenn Workman : Andrew: They use a special file format, so it is not something you can just drag and drop samples into. 13:56:48 From Andrew Culver : So only .ufs files for Workstation? 13:57:00 From Andrew Culver : Thanks Glen 13:57:43 From Glenn Workman : kristin: Its an Instrument plug-in, so create Instrument with Options from the Project menu, then choose MOTU/Workstation from the popup window in the dialog box that appears. 13:57:53 From Andrew Culver : It’s really of a playstation than a workstation huh? 13:58:36 From James Paschall : Sounds great. 13:58:38 From Glenn Workman : Andrew: Some of the .ufs files are also copy protected with Pace/iLok type authorizations as well, so just having the files is not always enough. 13:58:43 From Craig Hlady : Glenn, so where do you download the motu instruments for uvi workstation is that in the startup menu? 13:58:54 From Russ Pfeifer : Very nice 13:58:56 From Thomas : nice 13:59:20 From Andrew Culver : Yes it’s in the startup menu in DP 13:59:20 From Glenn Workman : Craig: You have to login on the motu.com site into your account. The download and authorizations will be in your account if you’ve registered DP. 13:59:50 From Craig Hlady : Ok thanks Glenn ! 14:00:41 From Glenn Workman : Andrew/Craig: Yes, in the Welcome window there is also a link. I didn’t know what startup window meant, my bad. 14:00:51 From Caxa : How do I route an IAC channel to a virtual Instrument input? 14:01:44 From Glenn Workman : Caxa: Sound like a topic for another seminar. Are you on a Mac? (Not sure if IAC is a PC thing or not, since I’ve been Mac only since 1985) 14:02:05 From Glenn Workman : Caxa: It should be something that appears in your Bundles window 14:02:06 From John Boyle : YES Cloud!! 14:02:07 From Caxa : @Glen I’m on a MAc 14:03:02 From Caxa : @Glenn I can rout it to a MIDI input but not a VI input. 14:03:11 From Roque Baños : Hi Glenn. I own Ethnographies and stoped using it for the simpler matter of not carrying I-locks back and forth to LA. Is there a way to authorize Ethno in my MacBook Por? 14:03:11 From Stephan Haager : I’ve made a MIDI track that plays one of the VI’s. What’s the best set up a track to record an audio file of the MOTU VI MIDI performance? 14:03:32 From Roque Baños : Sorry for the typing, I meat Ethno… 14:03:34 From Glenn Workman : Caxa: Then that MIDI track needs to be routed to the VI. 14:03:45 From Michael Canavan : IAC is a MIDI routing system in OSX, it’s for routing between applications. It has to be activated in Audio MIDI Setup 14:04:25 From Terry Leigh Britton : The fact that VEP cannot run in PreGen mode is a negative, so I only use it for playing sampled instruments. 14:04:27 From Glenn Workman : Stephan: Both Freeze Selected Tracks, and some of the Bounce To Disk options that let you bounce selected tracks to audio files. 14:04:29 From Caxa : Yup I have IAC activated, I having a problem routing it in DP. 14:05:26 From Andrew Culver : Caxa: Have you tried Soundflower? 14:05:46 From Caxa : I’m using Soundflower! 14:06:37 From Caxa : Everything is fine with the IAC, it’s simply the routing inside DP I don’t quite get. 14:06:38 From Craig Hlady : Thats what I have been doing lately one instrument per konkakt instance 14:06:56 From Aryeh Har-Even : Caxa: I use Loopback 14:07:02 From Benoit Widemann : That was slick! 14:07:07 From James Paschall : That was very enlightening! 14:07:12 From Glenn Workman : Caxa: Maybe you can send me a small project and I can look and see how you have it routed. glenn@freqsound.com 14:07:26 From Jim Kremens : This ‘many instances of Kontakt is better than multi-timbral instances` info was super valuable. 14:07:56 From Jay Woelfel : sure does. 14:08:19 From Andrew Culver : Gotta go. Thanks Matt and Glenn — always learning here. 14:08:31 From Jay Woelfel : I recently had a very short cue with loaded up kontakts that ran really slowly, I couldn't figure why 14:08:32 From Glenn Workman : See you Andrew. 14:08:42 From Reed Robins : This is WITHIN DP right? Not VEP “This ‘many instances of Kontakt is better than multi-timbral instances` info was super valuable.” 14:09:07 From Reed Robins : B/c VEP does not do preteen? 14:09:08 From Terry Leigh Britton : Yes, within DP. 14:09:16 From Reed Robins : Pregen !! 14:09:22 From Reed Robins : THanks 14:09:25 From Glenn Workman : Reed: Nice correction :) 14:09:41 From Reed Robins : @Glenn LOL 14:10:01 From John Boyle : This is my first time on one of these Webinars. Matt, Glenn, everybody…….Thank You. 14:10:08 From Eric Witt : What are cors? 14:10:16 From Bjorn Linden : Core 14:10:17 From Adam Goldman : cores….cpu 14:10:19 From Craig Bauer : Thanks for sharing the insight on Kontakt instances and performance 14:10:20 From Terry Leigh Britton : cores - like quad-core. 14:10:21 From Eric Witt : Cores 14:10:24 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Processor cores, part of the CPU (Intel model x) 14:10:34 From Eric Witt : OK thanks Glenn. 14:10:48 From Eric Witt : SO you can buy them separately to add to your computer? 14:10:49 From Eric Chapelle : I got a iMac Pro with a 10-core Xeon chip with 64 gigs of ram. It’s really nice to run DP 10 in! 14:11:00 From James Paschall : Thanks for the question, Eric! 14:11:02 From Terry Leigh Britton : Built-in to the CPU 14:11:10 From Craig Hlady : higher buffer setting will help vi processors when mixing 14:11:12 From Terry Leigh Britton : You'd need to replace the processor. 14:11:12 From Eric Witt : No problem James. 14:11:13 From Adam Goldman : Eric Witt…no, they’re the ‘core’ of the computer 14:11:14 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Click the Apple icon, and About This Mac, and it will tell you what processor and core setup you have. 14:11:41 From Eric Witt : OK thanks Glenn. But I can replace it if I want to make it more powerful? 14:11:42 From Glenn Workman : Eric: No, you can’t change processor on a Mac. 14:11:56 From Eric Witt : OK so what is the point of buying Cores? 14:12:04 From Ray T. : @glenn not on the new ones anyway. ;) 14:12:11 From Adam Goldman : Eric Witt more cores = a stronger computer 14:12:31 From Erik Ibsen-Nowak : I think you can on the newest Mac Pro, but not sure. Not on the old ones though. 14:12:38 From Terry Leigh Britton : Eric - you don't buy cores - they are part of the processor. 14:12:41 From Eric Witt : Adam - Oh, I see so you don’t buy the core separately but simply buy a computer with more cores? 14:12:50 From Craig Hlady : i maxed out my 2012 12 core mac with new processors works great 14:12:51 From Adam Goldman : Eric Witt…correct 14:12:56 From Adam Goldman : (or perhaps core-rect) 14:12:58 From Eric Witt : OK thanks Adam. 14:13:00 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Its a choice you make when you buy the computer. If you look on Apples online store, every model give you a chance of picking a different processor (i5, 17, four core, 8 core etc). 14:13:14 From Eric Witt : Got it. Thanks Glenn. 14:13:23 From Robert Turner : Gotta Scoot. Good Session!! Thanks Matt & Glenn. 14:13:40 From Stephan Haager : Very impressive! Thanks 14:13:48 From Glenn Workman : RayT: I remember buying after market processor upgrades in the early/mid 90s from Sonnet and others. 14:13:54 From Jonathan Scales : Awesome! 14:14:03 From John Boyle : Amazing!! Not like the old days. 14:14:17 From Dan Levine : But bounce to disk is only with a virtual instrument? Can I do that with midi played from a patch from my Korg Kronos? 14:14:20 From Ray T. : @Glenn, I replaced the CPUs in my two Mac Pro 5,1 towers last year to X5690s. Definitely felt a difference. 14:14:20 From Eric Witt : Glenn - Too bad you can’t do it on computers anymore. 14:14:47 From Caxa : Sorry … I got kick out then! 14:14:49 From Glenn Workman : Dan: Correct, you’d have to track the audio output of an external MIDI device just like recording from a microphone. 14:14:58 From Dan Levine : Thank you, Glenn 14:15:58 From Glenn Workman : Archival requirements - yes. Print everything. Operating systems change, hardware changes, software changes, etc. 14:16:08 From Stephan Haager : Great session! 14:16:40 From Terry Leigh Britton : @Glenn Workman - would you need to make stems from multi-channel VEP output (via Auxes) the same way as with a hardware instrument, in realtime? 14:17:30 From Khaled Hammad : how can i make a bounce for many tracks at once .. 14:17:34 From Dan Levine : But I think he means….Why not just have separate midi channels on different DP tracks 14:17:56 From Craig Hlady : can you talk about routing those instruments from UVI to busses for mixing 14:18:05 From Glenn Workman : Terry: I don’t use VEP, but I thought the new multi-bounce capability would let you bounce multiple tracks (not just physical outputs) in a single operation. 14:18:32 From Khaled Hammad : how can i make a bounce for many tracks at once ..
but to keep it separate audio file for each 14:18:33 From Terry Leigh Britton : I got an error message from Bounce that it could not bounce from audio involving Aux tracks. 14:18:43 From Victor LeComer : Workstation also is a separate library of sounds. 14:18:45 From Dan Levine : BUT…I think it will help him to realize that each of those sounds within the workstation will end up on a separate DP track once recorded. 14:18:57 From Dan Levine : That’s what is confusing him 14:19:13 From Glenn Workman : Khaled: There are new options in the Bounce window that let you bounce separate files for each track selected. 14:19:36 From Adam Goldman : Eric Witt…you could also use it to group sections….Woodwinds, Strings, etc 14:19:58 From Adam Goldman : (aka, one instance of Workstation per section, for example) 14:20:35 From Ray T. : @Eric, it’s also useful if you had, for example, a drum kit setup. You might have a single MIDI track with all of the drum programming, but the multiple outputs allow you to print each drum to its own track. 14:20:43 From Simon Foster : @Glenn is it possible to copy duplicate v-rack aux tracks? 14:21:33 From Michael’s iPad Air : How much CPU efficiency do I gain if any by using fewer instantiations of instruments like Omnisphere, Kontakt, or SampleTank by creating multis across multiple channels in each? 14:21:36 From Glenn Workman : Simon: I don’t know why not. Doesn’t Duplicate Track do that from the Project menu? 14:22:22 From Aryeh Har-Even : I prefer to do the bounce and then have a listen. 14:22:36 From Ray T. : @Michael, in my experience it’s significant. I can saturate my CPU with an 8-patch instance of Omnisphere, but the exact same playback routed to eight individual instances of Omnisphere barely breaks a sweat. 14:22:47 From John Boyle : Might be behind on this, how is the music software world doing vis a vis Catalina? Compatibility? 14:23:06 From Simon Foster : @Glenn - no it’s greyed out as I can only select from the mixer 14:23:32 From Glenn Workman : Michael: Matt was saying with some VIs less instantiations using multiple channels, or more instantiations each with one instrument, occasionally one will be more efficient than the other. Probably need to verify on a one by one basis. Different programmers, different software, etc. 14:23:36 From Terry Leigh Britton : @Aryeh Har-Even I prefer that as well. 14:24:02 From Michael’s iPad Air : EXAMPLE with MASTERING BUSS LATENCY: LinMB and Abbey Roads Mastering Plugs cause latency even if you turn them off. You have to remove them completely. DP MasterWorks does not present noticeable latency. 14:24:11 From Glenn Workman : John Boyle: ProTools still won’t do video with Catalina. DP, so far for me, no problem. 14:24:23 From Terry Leigh Britton : Maybe I did not have busses set up optimally for this use-case. 14:24:29 From Aryeh Har-Even : “No clicking, no jitter” what’s not to like? 14:24:42 From Kenneth Sarkey : That’s good to know; bouncing is outside of cloking & jitter, etc. 14:25:04 From John Boyle : Thanks Glenn 14:25:05 From James Paschall : I don’t mean to digress, and this is minutia, but I noticed that writing notation, QuickScribe, won’t hold an accidental until the next measure. In other words you have to keep re-entering it. 14:25:10 From Terry Leigh Britton : Definitely a plus. 14:25:29 From Eric Witt : VRAC is the same thing as a Virtual Instrument Rack? 14:25:31 From Benoit Widemann : Thx again, bye 14:25:41 From Terry Leigh Britton : V-rack 14:26:36 From John Boyle : Thank you people, I’m planning to be back Thursday. 14:26:44 From Khaled Hammad : thanks, anouther question .. how to multi record the Midi tracks .. each sepirately at once .. i am using DP to make a soundtracks, sometimes i use orchestra so i need the midi and audio files to be there for parts, but it took a lot of time to record each track then bounce it 14:26:52 From James Paschall : See you then, John! 14:27:11 From Glenn Workman : Khaled: are you using any external MIDI instruments, or only virtual ones? 14:27:36 From Khaled Hammad : only virtual 14:27:56 From James Tran : Great session. Thanks! 14:28:09 From Jeff Jarvis : lots of great info today. thanks so much. take care everyone. 14:28:25 From Glenn Workman : Khaled: with all VIs, then the new Bounce settings let you create them all at once as separate files, as will Freeze Selected Tracks. 14:28:49 From David Stowell : Got to go, Supper in the UK! Thanks for another great session. See you Thursday! 14:29:05 From James Paschall : Cheers, m8! 14:29:19 From Ray T. : I’ve had some random crashes with multi-bounce as well. Can’t reliably reproduce, though. 14:29:26 From Khaled Hammad : so free selected tracks insted of record each track ? 14:29:26 From Aryeh Har-Even : Matt: I found the info re bounce to disk and separate instances on CPU (as best practice) excellent info today. 14:29:32 From Aryeh Har-Even : As usual, terrific webinars, Matt! 14:29:44 From Dan Levine : Hey Glenn….Very often, the FIRST time I launch DP, I will get an error message and it won’t load. Then I try again and it then loads no problem. Is this normal or is there a fix for it? 14:29:45 From Ray T. : But I still instinctively save before bouncing all the time anyway. Ever since, what was it… DP5? 14:29:56 From Simon Foster : Supper time - thanks all! 14:30:34 From Wayne Pronzati : Once again, great stuff Matt! Thank you!! 14:30:42 From Eric Chapelle : Awesome session. Thanks Matt and all! 14:31:16 From Glenn Workman : Khaled: Freeze (with the tracks in question all selected) will route the output of each VI automatically to a new bus, then routed to a new track, and in real time will create an audio track and file for each instrument. That will be in realtime, so a five minute song takes 5 minutes to bounce, but all the tracks are recorded at once and the routing is handled for you. 14:31:49 From Glenn Workman : Dan: don’t know why, but possibly reinstalling DP would help. 14:31:57 From Eric Witt : How do you connect the instruments in the V-Rack to a track? 14:31:58 From Kerwin Young : Exactly about V-Racks! I too will be sending update suggestions regarding V-Racks 14:32:08 From Ryan Cohan : @Erik: I had that same crash problem on bounce. Planned to send to issue to MOTU, as well, after I isolated it. 14:32:13 From James Paschall : Brillant session…like rest…keeps me moving up the learning curve. Matt is so articulate and comprehensive ! Thanks so much! 14:32:52 From Ray T. : One more call for beta testers - if anyone is willing to kick the tires on my translation of Spitfire’s template for the BBCSO library before I release it, please email me at bbcsotemplate@raytoler.com. 14:33:03 From Khaled Hammad : Thanks you Glenn 14:33:10 From Glenn Workman : Eric: They are available in all Chunks in a project. That’s kind of the point, you make one V-rack, and it can be shared between multiple chunks. That way when you switch from chunk to chunk, it doesn’t have to load samples for each chunk every time you switch. 14:33:13 From Steve Sklar : A lot of great stuff today, and not as “over my head,” heh. Thanks! 14:33:14 From Caxa : Regroover will split up loops 14:33:15 From Robert Moskowitz : drum core 14:33:44 From Eric Witt : How do you connect the instruments in the V-Rack to a track? 14:34:01 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Select them as output on a MIDI track. 14:34:06 From Dan : Superior Drummer 3 has drum tracking 14:34:17 From Eric Witt : OK got it Glenn. Thanks. 14:34:48 From Terry Leigh Britton : @Eric Witt Then I buss the audio to an audio track to make stems. 14:35:23 From Eric Witt : Hi Terry. OK you lost me in the stems part? What are stems? 14:35:53 From Terry Leigh Britton : Stems is a term describing a recording for a single instrument or a mix of a few similar instruments (like a drum mix) 14:36:27 From Terry Leigh Britton : It is what Matt was describing to back up all your tracks as audio for long-term archiving. 14:36:34 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Stems are sub mixes. You might send a bounce of just the strings, just the drums, just the vocals, etc. Or in film a music stem, a sound fx stem, a dialog stem. 14:36:36 From Eric Witt : OK. But what is the difference between a single instrument and a stem then? 14:36:57 From Eric Witt : OK Glenn. Thanks, answered my question. 14:36:58 From barrycrow : In Matt’s project, is Ethno using 3 midi tracks? 14:37:01 From Terry Leigh Britton : But many people record these stems to use them in a different software package for mixing sometimes. 14:37:01 From Ray T. : I wish you could direct where things go both in multi-bounce and POLAR. I just gave up and left the POLAR tracks named the way they exported. :) 14:37:29 From Glenn Workman : barrycrow: Yes, each on its own channel. 14:37:30 From Eric Witt : OK understand better Terry. Thanks. 14:38:03 From Aryeh Har-Even : Have a great day y’all! Thanks again Matt, Glenn, Jim, Motu. 14:38:37 From Glenn Workman : Terry/Eric: It also gives someone farther down the chain (a mixer for a movie for example) some control but not ALL control over your tracks. If drums are a stem, he can’t decide he wants more kick drum for example. 14:39:47 From Eric Witt : Got it Glenn. Thanks. 14:39:54 From Adam Goldman : you guys are great. Thanks! 14:40:15 From Eric Witt : It is still way over my head but going to all these seminars has helped me understand Performer better. And Glenn and others have really helped. 14:40:26 From Paul Colombo : Thanks! 14:40:37 From Glenn Workman : Thanks to everyone for keeping these all lively and informative.