13:41:15 From Kubilay Uner : For those of us who were locked out - what are the summaries of differences for ZTX and Pure DSP? Why pick Pure DSP here instead of ZTX? 13:41:42 From mw : Jacki: I’ve used both Melodyne and DP’s pitch correction extensively. Lately I do virtually all of my pitch correction in DP. But if I need to adjust timing, Melodyne’s elastic properties come in handy for that. 13:41:53 From jraoul : Kubilay: It’s a solo vocal. 13:42:11 From jraoul : But Matt stressed trying all the options until you find the one that does the best job of what you want. 13:42:17 From Kubilay Uner : Yes, but ZTX has a solo mode, too. What are the criteria for picking one over the other? 13:42:19 From jraoul : Even within ZTX there’s lots of options 13:42:32 From jraoul : Ears. 13:42:44 From Jacki Barineau : MW - thanks! 13:42:49 From Kenneth Sarkey : Feature suggestion: Pitches displayed need to be able to zoom in vertically more than is currently available, for better pencil control. 13:43:13 From Kubilay Uner : I see, just saw your second line re. Matt’s recommendation 13:43:15 From Kubilay Uner : Thanks! 13:43:17 From mw : Kenneth: Vertical zoom is already available. 13:43:30 From XNE0EDzQEHm8GRxQaLxinmGjSWFg3sTfrEZ5Uy7WYuo= : With this, can you take an average voice and make it seem really professional? 13:43:44 From Kenneth Sarkey : …I know, but not enough though! 13:43:50 From jraoul : XN: Yes. That should be part of DP’s marketing strategy. 13:44:01 From XNE0EDzQEHm8GRxQaLxinmGjSWFg3sTfrEZ5Uy7WYuo= : cool 13:44:23 From mw : Kenneth: Are you sure you’ve see the maximum? It’s HUGE. 13:44:30 From Les Hurdle : No audio ?? 13:44:36 From Glenn Workman : XN (Eric): You can make it in tune, but tone is another kettle of fish. 13:44:46 From Eric Witt : Thanks jraoui 13:44:58 From Glenn Workman : Les: Audio is working. Check your settings in zoom. 13:45:11 From Eric Witt : Thanks Glen. 13:45:19 From Eric Witt : Wow Glen, you recognized me. 13:45:41 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Funny, your name just changed to Eric from the XN….. mess. 13:45:47 From Les Hurdle : says it is muted at your end 13:45:59 From Eric Witt : Glen, so it only corrects the pitch but doesn’t have a huge effect on the quality of the voice? 13:46:16 From Eric Witt : Yes Glen, I changed it. 13:46:25 From Eric Witt : just now. 13:46:27 From Glenn Workman : Eric: Correct, though it does try to change just the pitched element and not the noise elements of a sound. 13:46:50 From jraoul : Didn’t DP used to have a section that was more about formants and tonal quality than pitch? 13:46:52 From Eric Witt : Glen. Ohh too bad. Was hoping to use my voice to sound better. 13:46:58 From Eric Witt : :) 13:47:41 From Jacki Barineau : Eric - now pitch correction and adding/subtracting vibrato - can definitely make an average voice sound better - so don’t give up hope lol! 13:48:28 From Eric Witt : ok thanks Jacki. ButI don’t see how just vibrato can have a huge effect if the pitch is already good? 13:48:38 From Glenn Workman : Les: The mic icon with Mute/UnMute slash is for your audio. There’s a small triangle you can click that has a popup menu that takes you to your audio settings. Could also be what you have set for source in the system settings. On a Mac that’s the Sound panel in the System Preferences. There’s also a volume control in that panel, and possibly in the top right area of your menu bar. 13:48:40 From Ken Thies : Ooh, yes, "Spectral " I just noticed that it's gone. Bummer. 13:48:42 From Mark Kelso : transposition would be to G natural 13:49:02 From Glenn Workman : Ken: Spectral Effects isn’t gone. Its in the Audio menu. 13:49:23 From Jacki Barineau : Eric - for example - there was an elderly gentleman that had a VERY huge vibrato going on - that also dipped flat on almost every held note…. By decreasing that vibrato depth, I made him sound about 20 years younger!! He was elated!! 13:49:47 From Ken Thies : No, jraoul, it is stil there, Audio -> Spectral Effects... 13:49:48 From Eric Witt : Jacki - ok thanks. 13:49:58 From jraoul : Tx Glenn, Ken 13:50:06 From Ken Thies : Ahh, Glenn, thanks. I was looking too deep into the menu. 13:50:50 From mw : Kenneth: The pitch segments are also tied to the vertical height of the track. Make the track vertically huge, and the pitch segments will also be huge. 13:51:16 From jraoul : If he didn’t do that Merge thing on the copy, pitch adjustments would be applied to both copies of the soundbite — it’s the same soundbite, until you Merge (or do some other duplication). 13:51:37 From Les Hurdle : I see audio in the zoom setting moving around….. I use Saffire. Out won’t go past zero? 13:51:58 From Kenneth Sarkey : mw, thanks! i just recently upgraded to DP 10, and see that pitch display is plenty big now. 13:52:41 From Dan Levine : Hearing a lot of distortion on the guitars. 13:53:00 From Glenn Workman : Les: Maximum out for a digital signal is 0dB. Anything registering above that on an output meter, is clipping. 13:53:32 From Jacki Barineau : Can you tune a polyphonic instrument like a piano? And what settings would you use?! I tried but it was a disaster so I missed something! 13:53:33 From Dan Levine : Distortion on all music being played. Is that just in the zoom transmission or is it on these actual recordings? 13:53:44 From Glenn Workman : Jacki: He’s going to do that right now. 13:53:48 From Les Hurdle : If I play back an mp3 from my desktop it works,,, nothing for zoom 13:53:49 From jraoul : Zoom is at least part of it 13:54:08 From Dan Levine : Ah, jraoul. Had that feeling 13:54:17 From Dan Levine : You’re hearing it too? 13:54:20 From Glenn Workman : Les: There’s a test mic/test speaker setting the Zoom preferences. 13:54:44 From jraoul : Dan — yeah, but I have crappy playback, too 13:54:49 From Glenn Workman : Try that to see if your settings are correct. 13:54:51 From Erik Ibsen-Nowak : Another one I discovered is hold OPT when scrolling on mouse wheel. Same as dragging on wiper. 13:54:56 From Adam Goldman : @geronimo: did you say what version of DP you’re using with Artist Series? 13:55:10 From Les Hurdle : Got the audio now. thnx 13:55:17 From jraoul : Yay, Les! 13:55:21 From Kenneth Sarkey : cuts at wiper, unless snap to marker is on in grid. 13:56:51 From Ken Thies : The only amount of distortion I'm hearing here is what I'd expect from zoom auto-compressing the audio on the way. 13:57:20 From Alastair Gavin : Gonna head off, thx MOTU! 13:57:23 From Glenn Workman : Ken: Same here. Sounds worse on my laptop (wireless) than the better wired internet connection on the Mac Pro. 13:58:00 From jraoul : Matt sounds a lot more resonant and clear than the Boston tracks did. 13:58:01 From James Paschall : Great direct modulation. 13:58:13 From GP Khalsa : I have to leave and I really need to watch this again. Encore please. 13:58:16 From Ken Thies : Glenn, yeah, my laptop is online via wireless too, but at least it's firewired into my 828mk2... 13:59:43 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: An AKG414 and less overall frequency content in a voice than a multitrack music mix. 14:00:18 From Glenn Workman : GP: Webinars will be posted on the MOTU Webinar page and the motuTV channel on YouTube once they are edited. 14:06:07 From Eric Witt : What is pure dsp? 14:06:28 From jraoul : MATT: switch from Tempo slider to Conductor track 14:06:36 From Glenn Workman : Eric: That’s the name of DP’s native pitch correction algorithm. Its been in the software for about 20 years. 14:06:37 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : PureDSP is an audio pitch-shifting and time-stretching algorithm developed by MOTU for DP. 14:06:48 From Eric Witt : ok thanks Jim. 14:07:35 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : It works well for vocals and similar solo voice material, but ZTX works best for polyphonic material and many other types of material. 14:09:37 From Jacki Barineau : I wish you could rearrange the tracks in the sequence editor instead of having to switch to tracks ! 14:09:48 From Eric Witt : ok thanks Jim. 14:10:03 From jraoul : Jacki: You can, but he’s got so many tracks it’s easier to do it in Tracks 14:10:06 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Jackie, you can. 14:10:10 From Glenn Workman : Jacki: You can. 14:10:30 From Jacki Barineau : Oh! 14:10:30 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Drag the left edge of the track settings panel vertically with the double-arrow cursor. 14:10:46 From Jacki Barineau : Ok, thanks, Jim! 14:10:52 From Les Hurdle : who is breathing heavy ;-(( 14:10:55 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Hover over the edge to find the cursor. 14:10:59 From Benoit Widemann : Transposing a half up is unethical. :) 14:11:16 From tomlewis : Do a Ritard before Key change 14:11:37 From Joel Friedman : add drum solo, ;-) 14:11:44 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : More cowbell 14:12:10 From Kubilay Uner : Would you be able to individually adjust the edge of each track where the transposition happens? 14:12:20 From Kubilay Uner : Thereby cleaning up the transition? 14:12:34 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : If you want to get into those weeds, yes 14:12:46 From Kubilay Uner : Awesome. I’m all about the weeds 14:12:47 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : By making different selections. 14:12:51 From James Paschall : Jim…could DP do what George Martin did on many Beatle tracks, slowing down the tape recorder by half, playing an octave lower, then playback at normal speed giving a chiming sounding or almost tack piano sound? 14:12:54 From Glenn Workman : Kubilay: Yes, he used the wiper to split them in the sample place, but you can adjust each edit after that. 14:13:03 From Kubilay Uner : So cool 14:13:22 From Eric Witt : I think it would be better to slow until you get to the change and then speed up again. 14:13:41 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : James: you could try it, but doubling or halving starts to push the limit of what ZTX can do and still sound reasonably good. It would probably depend on the material. 14:13:51 From Eric Witt : If you keep it slow after the change I am not sure it is the same effect. 14:13:54 From James Paschall : OK, thanks! 14:13:55 From John K : using quantize pitch, is there a way to partially quantize the pitch, as you can partially quantize MIDI timing? 14:14:06 From Victor LeComer : Timpani 14:14:08 From Eric Witt : Just a suggestion. 14:14:09 From Joel Friedman : James Pascal - not sure as that’s analog - timbre, pitch, and speed go together. 14:14:22 From stevenwatson1 : Bravo Matt ! 14:14:23 From Glenn Workman : JohnK: You can drag pitch up/down with finer control. 14:14:39 From Les Hurdle : The last gent to speak is VERY loud 14:15:00 From Glenn Workman : Les: Now you’ve got too much sound :) 14:15:19 From jraoul : Glenn - The cmd-0 Quantize window has the option to quantize by percentage rather than all/none. Does pitch quantize have that feature, or… COULD IT in the future? 14:15:23 From James Paschall : Right, Joel. Thanks. 14:15:29 From Les Hurdle : nope. Comparing Matt to those who call in 14:16:15 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : I just turned down my zoom mic volume. Let me know if it’s better. 14:16:26 From Joel Friedman : James - I wish. I wonder how you could get Rain guitars in DP 14:16:46 From jraoul : +1 John K 14:16:57 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: There is a cents adjustment (100ths of semitone) but that affects them all. 14:17:28 From James Paschall : Oh yes, Joel! 14:17:49 From Les Hurdle : Thanks Jim 14:17:54 From Eric Witt : How many cents are there in a note? 14:18:04 From Brian Luce : I use cents all the time for tuning ensembles in just temperament. 14:18:10 From Glenn Workman : Eric: 100 cents to a semiton/half step 14:18:19 From Luis Angel : 100 cents = 1 semitone 14:18:20 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Les: better then? 14:18:26 From Simon Foster : Supper is here - got to go! Thanks all! 14:18:36 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Thanks for joining Simon! 14:18:43 From Eric Witt : Ok thanks Glen and Luis. 14:18:48 From Simon Foster : See you tomorrow :) 14:18:49 From Brian Luce : The cents equivalent can be found in the new Harvard dictionary of music. Major thirds, -13.61 cents, etc. 14:18:51 From jraoul : Glenn/Jim: I’m thinking a feature that would allow you to sort of tune a passage closer to correct pitch but not all the way to the 12-tone grid — to retain that human thing so many people seem to think is important. 14:19:20 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : jraoul: duly noted. 14:19:24 From jraoul : Tx Jim. 14:19:29 From James Paschall : Cool, Brian. 14:19:46 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: Like Matt showed, you can use the command-drag to get finer control, it can just be tedious to do note by note. 14:20:14 From James Paschall : Amazing album, that 1st Boston album. 14:21:16 From dinobass : I know that bathroom! 14:21:31 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Get an impulse response! Quick! 14:21:38 From Jacki Barineau : That’s awesome! 14:21:39 From Glenn Workman : :) 14:21:52 From Mark Kelso : The Boston Bathroom IR?? 14:22:29 From darrellsmith : Does anyone have a suggestion for a keyboard cover manufacturer for keyboard shortcuts for Digital Peformer? 14:22:43 From Erik Ibsen-Nowak : KB Covers I think 14:22:48 From darrellsmith : Thanks 14:22:55 From Benoit Widemann : Gotta go… thanks! 14:23:07 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Thanks for joining Benoit! 14:23:57 From Victor LeComer : Tom is amazing! 14:24:35 From Glenn Workman : Opened a show for Boston about 2 years ago at Pier Six in Baltimore. 14:24:36 From Luis Angel : Darrell: try Logickeyboard.They have keyboard printed versions and “skins”. 14:24:46 From Raiden : Where would we send questions or ideas for topics as suggestions for potential webinars? 14:24:59 From Bob Camacho : I remember Hanley Sound. 14:24:59 From Glenn Workman : suggestions@motu.com 14:25:05 From stevenwatson1 : Amazing how the lead vocal leads into and then disapears into the guitar solo !! Amazing for back then !! 14:25:14 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Raiden: send them to me: jim@motu.com. Thanks! 14:25:21 From stevenwatson1 : Bravo John !! 14:25:31 From jraoul : Do it, John! 14:25:37 From Bob Camacho : Thank you John 14:25:42 From Raiden : Thank you 14:25:44 From James Paschall : Outstanding! Thanks, John. What a treat! 14:25:49 From Adam Goldman : thanks, John Boylan 14:26:02 From James Paschall : YES…come back please 14:26:04 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : [ virtual clapping ] 14:26:06 From Glenn Workman : Thanks. John. 14:26:19 From Neil McCarroll : Thanks John :) 14:28:36 From David Bass : I’ve had this happen to me as well 14:30:52 From jraoul : Jacki: I just heard about something called Hit’n’Mix Atomic Editing that might do it. I have no experience with it. 14:31:49 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Jackie, try a demo of this app: 14:31:50 From Jacki Barineau : Thanks, jraoul! I’ll check into that! 14:31:53 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : https://www.zynaptiq.com/pitchmap/ 14:32:02 From Jacki Barineau : Ok, thanks, Jim! 14:32:06 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : It might work better than Melodyne for what you want to do. 14:34:26 From Luis Angel : Thanks Matt for another great webinar!!! 14:35:08 From Glenn Workman : Nelson: Make a duplicate take first. 14:35:08 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Thanks for joining Luis! 14:38:22 From Edward Auslender : “hard left” but what if you add a measure of 2 before bar 1... do you merge all the way back to -1 (or -2)? 14:40:28 From Les Hurdle : Matt. What theme colors are you using? 14:40:30 From Paul Colombo : Thanks! See you tomorrow. 14:40:51 From Glenn Workman : Edward: You’d need that “almost” empty bar that had the pickup. You could still anchor that at 1, as long as everything starts together. 14:41:11 From Roger Carr : Thanks Matt and Jim. Back tomorrow. 14:41:11 From Glenn Workman : Stephen Burch: Please send me the movie in question too. glenn@freqsound.com 14:41:20 From James Paschall : I need to leave. Thanks, Matt and Jim, and everyone else as well. Be safe…see you next session! 14:41:30 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Thanks for joining us today guys! 14:41:31 From Glenn Workman : Les: he’s using the current Default theme 14:41:42 From Les Hurdle : thnx 14:41:51 From Neil McCarroll : HANDBRAKE is great for any vid conversions and FREE :) 14:42:00 From Eric Witt : DP works with an imovie file? 14:42:25 From Glenn Workman : Eric: It works with many different movie formats. 14:42:46 From Roger Carr : Glenn Workman: Sorry about my unsolicited email earlier - Crisis over… 14:42:51 From Eric Witt : Thanks Glenn. But it works with Imovie too. 14:42:55 From Eric Witt : ? 14:43:20 From Glenn Workman : Roger: no problem, anyone is free to email me if I can help. Haven’t seen your email yet since I had a lecture earlier then have been here since. 14:43:59 From Glenn Workman : Eric: iMovie can export different movie types (depending on version) but usually makes a .mov or .mp4 file, both of which DP can use. 14:44:03 From jraoul : What QT Pro is Matt talking about? Quick web search shows QT Player 7, which is no longer supported. 14:44:18 From Eric Witt : oh got it Glenn. Thanks. 14:44:47 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: The Quicktime program that is standard in the current OS versions will do screen recording, screen movies, audio recordings etc. Don’t need QTP 7 14:45:11 From Glenn Workman : Vibrato you can swing a cat through. 14:45:40 From Glenn Workman : jraoul: Currently just called QuickTime Player. 14:47:44 From Les Hurdle : Will pitch to midi only work via single notes? 14:48:25 From Glenn Workman : Les: Yes, monophonic stuff, vocal lines, sax solo, etc. 14:48:28 From Jim Cooper (MOTU) : Les, yes, only single notes. 14:48:40 From Les Hurdle : thnx 14:49:34 From David Bass : Is there a way to use MIDI data to pitch correct a vocal line? 14:50:00 From Glenn Workman : David: Not currently. 14:50:11 From David Bass : Thank you. 14:51:46 From Neil McCarroll : Big lesson I learnt in a past session - don’t be afraid to challenge a top soloist to actually tune their blinking instrument properly😅 14:52:35 From Glenn Workman : Neil: You don’t want to have to compliment them with “I love what you were trying to do there”. 14:53:13 From Jacki Barineau : Lol Glenn! 14:53:19 From Neil McCarroll : absolutely Glenn! 14:54:09 From Jacki Barineau : Same!